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would you play with a man. and his 3d printer army? 
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Executioner

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hello friends

i am back to you guys with a questions sorry to bug you it been a long time

a man was at a game store and fought a man with a 3d printed army. want to know if you guy would refuse to play since he dont support OUR game

thank you guys and hope you are good! :D


Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:41 pm
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Hi, Blondshade, long time indeed!
Hard to understand the question:
how possibly someone actually playing a game would be considered not to be supporting that game?

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Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:50 am
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I suppose Blondshade is referring to the fact that the man with 3d printer is not buying any miniature...
I think our game is supported also buying manuals, scenery and dice.
More than anything else, the game is supported by playing it.
So, the answer is no. I wouldn't refuse to play against him.
On the other hand I would comprehend the shop owner for banning him

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Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:20 pm
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The game, conceived by GW, consisted in selling models and accessories, and making efforts to induce customers to buy more thanks to programmed obsolescence and obstacles to competitors.
The game, played by the hobbyists, consisted in collecting and assembling models, painting them, creating stories, meeting opponents, having a drink, reporting battles, discussing the merits of units, theoryhammering etc...

When we refer to OUR game, my understanding is the second version, not the first.
They use to coincide. No longer since THEY destroyed deliberately OUR game. Now OUR game has many alternatives to THEIR game.

When we talk about a game store, it is by no way limited to a GW game store. I do understand fully that GW game stores limit the games played there to GW models. Fair. The shopkeeper needs to make a living.
I have heard that some of them tolerate The 9th Age games played in their shops, as long as players use only GW models. Outstanding! Reversely, T9A takes care that most old GW models are supported by rules - even those which GW itself does no longer support.

The games shopkeeper business model is evolving, at least those not limited to GW.
First, they understand that they need to make money more on coffee and beer and room rental than on models.
Second, they understand that customers are attracted by other customers having fun.
This is what we encourage at T9A. No matter the brand of the models which can be sold by the shopkeeper, they most likely may fit T9A.
Even 3D printed models, or even 2D paper models should be interesting, because they allow a cheaper entry to the hobby, and a hooked customer using 3D models will sooner or later want to ahve nicer quality models.

Now, the OP question was about a player refusing to play against another one because of 3D models.
This is another story.
Not much different than a player refusing to play against an army of unpainted models: part of the Hobby is in the visual pleasure.
If the 3D models are blunt and static and all in the same position, I would understand a displeasure.
On the other hand, better have such opponent than no opponent at all. Moreover, such opponent using 3D is probably not able to afford GW models... yet. Better be patient and in the long term have the hope to get a greater quality opponent.

In any case, refusing to play someone because of insufficient model quality seems to be a poor practice.

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Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:02 am
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