Shooting when exactly 24'' apart

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Shooting when exactly 24'' apart

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Today we had a heated discussion in our gaming group. The question is really stupid, yet still...

Let's say two units deployed exactly 24'' apart. Can one of them shoot the other with ranged weapons with the maximum range of 24'' like handguns or rxbs on the first turn?

The rulebook states that "All missile weapons have a maximum range that indicates the furthest distance they can shoot". I think that this phrase means that they CAN actually shoot at something at that range. My opponent argued that his models were not WITHIN 24'' so I couldn't shoot. So this 'boundary' question arose =) How do you interpret such situations?
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I have always played it that they can be hit at exaclty 24".

So if I deplaoyed my Rxbowmen as far in as I could and then an enemy unit was placed as far in as they could go on the other side this would put exactly 24" between them and so the enemy can be shot at.
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pg 2, BRB says there should be more than 24" between the opposing armies. So really your units are 24.0001" away from the enemy, and 24" range weapons are out of range on the first turn.
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Hm... Interesting question... I would assume that the GW rules mean 24" from base to base, so if they are from base to base, yes IMO.

However, there is also reality to count in. A crossbow fires a bolt directly forward, so if it has a maximum of 24" range, it probably means that the bolt hits the ground after that range. So maybe it hits the ground directly in front of the enemys feet...

But as the measurement of charging enemy units is done from base to base, I assume that GW means that too with shooting...
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Well, I have not read up on it as it seemed fairly basic and non-contested, so officially they may not be able to, but in my area we have always played I can shoot anything that I can touch with the 24". So as stated above, if both parties deploy right on the line, then we can shoot at them. If we don't want to be shoot we deploy back a bit.

It has never been a problem for us, and IMO becomes a little poor sportsmanship to try and make a calling like that, but that may just be because of our method.
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Thank you for your answers! Now the problem's solved =) The funny thing is that we were both right =)
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anyone who has studied calculus will tell you "no, you cannot hit them from exactly 24" away"


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And what does calculus have to do with this?
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Because calculus was invented to model physics and it deals w/ limits and infinitesimals. If your face is exactly 24" from my bow, and I shoot an arrow that can only fly 24" before it poofs mysteriously, the arrow will poof at an infinitesimal distance from your face.

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I disagree- the arrow will poof mysteriously on my face (he he!) if you like, it will hit (say my nose) and vanish.

In game terms a ranged weapon may fire upon anything up to it's maximum range- similar to charging javelin-armed skinks with cavalry; they shoot when the knights are at 8".
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