hydra, exactly how????

Seleth · Post by **Seleth** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:58 am

With that much time that i have had in my hands recently, one question arrived to my troubled mind:

Exactly how does the monster the druchii have in their armies is an hydra???

In the greek mythology the hydra was a monster that split poison and when you cut a head, other two grew instead, until you hit his heart.

I have nothing against the fire, it works just the same but...

...it would be nice that for the next army book the hydra have new rules that support the unique habilities of this monster (specially with the arrival of new monsters for other armies that had leave the hydra in the bottom of the chain ex. Stegadon, Scraplauncher, etc)

"Whenever the war hydra looses a wound he will win an attack "

That's just my idea, tell me what do you think (specially if one of us is Alessio Cavatore or Gav Thorpe

Khel · Post by **Khel** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:44 am

the Royal Hydra spits acid..But i think growing bck heads would be over-powering, maybe regeneration would be good?

Minsc · Post by **Minsc** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:57 am

I've had that idéa for some time as well, however, then I also think of the fact that the Hydra only should have 1 head (1 Attack) at the beginning of the combat, but it 'come with' 5 heads (5 Attacks)

But yeah, it needs something to make it more worth its points (even though I love the Hydra).

I'd suggest T6.

Lord tareq · Post by **Lord tareq** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:55 am

If it had regeneration it would be rightly priced, as the thing is over-expensive. Only boon is it ignores difficult terrain making it better then in the previous edition, but its still overpriced. Regeneration would essentially give the hydra 12 wounds instead of 6, making it far more difficult to destroy which feels just right.

Post by **Daeron** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:27 am

I think they should allow that rule of gaining an attack per wound only if they bring out a model where you can actually replace the big head by two smaller etc etc

Sulla · Post by **Sulla** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:40 pm

I'd love to see regeneration for hydras but perhaps impact hits are also an option too... Ogres, rhinox and stegadons use their bulk in the charge to gain impact hits, perhaps it would help hydra to be more useful as a line unit...

Thalon · Post by **Thalon** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:54 pm

I'd like to see either regeneration or stubborn

Post by **General kala** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:56 pm

I'd like to see this moved to the ideas forum....

Post by **Drainial** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:10 pm

I think that you should only get an extra attack for each sucsesful regeneration role as the hydra only gets an extra attack if it manages to grow another head, its points should go up to about 250 in this case.

Seleth · Post by **Seleth** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:48 am

That was only my idea, because the new monsters are just the price of the hydra, but they have special characteristics that makes them really strong, and the hydra has fallen with time... and i dare too said this because i like to use the hydra, but as the time had passed and new book released i can't avoid feeling the hydra is no more worst the point cost

Victor simic · Post by **Victor simic** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:05 am

Regenerate. Impact Hits. 250 points.

Fluffy and Fair.

Arcturus · Post by **Arcturus** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:37 am

To be honest, this is a GW hydra, not a Greek myth hydra. MAybe GW will change it's name to Hyeedrah in the new book, like with the yhetees etc... :lol:

If GW held the price as the same, and just added regen to the hydra, would probably make it a decent choise. Still wouldn't really compare with a treeman.

Cheers

Nikolaj m v · Post by **Nikolaj m v** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:55 pm

no big use of Stubborn since it cause terror

Thalon · Post by **Thalon** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:38 pm

Nikolaj M V wrote:no big use of Stubborn since it cause terror

Hu?
What has terror to do with stubborn?

I just have some problems to image that a mighty hydra would run away from a units of little goblins, just because of their outnumber (including 3 for ranks) and their standard.

Thalon

Post by **Drainial** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:07 pm

Why do you have a problem with that, if enough things that were only up to you nees started to try to jab you with spears I think you would have to give flight some serius thought, the Hydra might be a big ass monster but when confrunted with 30 spears in the face......

Thalon · Post by **Thalon** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:42 pm

Yes, I know...
But it's a big frightning monster and stubborn doesn't mean that it can't be afraid (also it's often very unlikely). A hydra has only LD6, 8 with the handlers, so stubborn would be a nice thing, but (as you say) really not necessary...

Thalon