1) Is the Hydra immune to panic? I don't think so, but my opponent and I both thought it was weird that it can break because it causes terror.
In this example, a unit of Dark Riders was chased down by a chariot and destroyed and the Hydra failed it's panic check.
2) Kouran refuses a challenge and is moved to another rank. Does the unit lose unbreakable?
Hydra and Kouran Question
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1) Nope, causing terror does not mean that you are immune to panic. So if someone shoots a handler, you should take a panic test.
2) Nope, as kouran is still in the unit; same with the Wood Elves nobles refusing challenges in an unit Eternal Guard. The unit stays stubborn.
Same with the DoC herald loci. A Nurgle herald refusing a challenge still grants his unit regeneration.
2) Nope, as kouran is still in the unit; same with the Wood Elves nobles refusing challenges in an unit Eternal Guard. The unit stays stubborn.
Same with the DoC herald loci. A Nurgle herald refusing a challenge still grants his unit regeneration.
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Mirz do ordas 2
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err,
a char that is not in front rank or a fighting position, does not count as a char and does not give any benefits except for us1 or 2
only when you refuse and the model can only be placed in the frontrank out of combat (say, a 10 wide 1 rank unit), does it count as a char.
thus, kouran refusing would make BG breakable, a urgle herald refusing would make the unit lose regeneration and a WE refusing would make the unit losing stubborn,
a wizard refusing does not allow it to use dispel scrolls, nor cast spells, a BSB refusing does not allow for rerolls, neither for an added 1 CR in combat.
this all only counts of course if ye do not accept the challence with another char, or the opponent decides to retire another char
a char that is not in front rank or a fighting position, does not count as a char and does not give any benefits except for us1 or 2
only when you refuse and the model can only be placed in the frontrank out of combat (say, a 10 wide 1 rank unit), does it count as a char.
thus, kouran refusing would make BG breakable, a urgle herald refusing would make the unit lose regeneration and a WE refusing would make the unit losing stubborn,
a wizard refusing does not allow it to use dispel scrolls, nor cast spells, a BSB refusing does not allow for rerolls, neither for an added 1 CR in combat.
this all only counts of course if ye do not accept the challence with another char, or the opponent decides to retire another char
fleeing from battle
Mirz Do Ordas 2 is right, if the character isn't in the first rank, the character doesn't gives his abilities, unless there's a special rules that says otherwise (Like Bretonnian's Lance formation)
Otherwise we could use a sorc the the last row or in the middle of a unit of 25 warriors and use the Focus Famillar to get a LoS.
Otherwise we could use a sorc the the last row or in the middle of a unit of 25 warriors and use the Focus Famillar to get a LoS.
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Normally, you'd be absolutely right, except that in these 3 cases there's specific descriptions and/or wording, or FAQ/Errata rulings, that change the normal course of action (only in these 3 cases!).
A perfect example is the WE BSB that you guys were just talking about, which is dealt with in the WE FAQ/Errata, that specifically says that the Stubborn rule is not lost if the BSB refuses a challenge.
A perfect example is the WE BSB that you guys were just talking about, which is dealt with in the WE FAQ/Errata, that specifically says that the Stubborn rule is not lost if the BSB refuses a challenge.