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terrorgheist vs screaming bell 
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A question. Does a deathshriek of a terrorgheist work against a screaming bell?

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Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:49 pm
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you scream at a unit. dont know if you can hit the bell (maybe hits are randomized to it? i dont have the skaven rules here). in either case you use the Ld, so the bell would get to use the Ld of the seer on top (im assuming the bell has Ld - here...)

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Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:32 am
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Could you perhaps clarify why you think it might not work against a screaming bell? Otherwise I think Lord Tsunami is right.

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Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:41 am
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you have to randomize between the bell and the seer, and I was confused a bit since the bell does not have a ld value.
its a grey seers mount in general, its a different size so I think you can choose to target the bell.
so in general I have to use the seer his ld value.

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when aiming shooting attacks at a unit with a bell (or furnace) you must choose the bell (or furnace) or the unit as target. its one of the bell (or furnace) rules. then you do indeed randomize your 1 hit 5-6 is the grey seer (or plague monk), everything else is the bell (or furnace). as a models own unmodified ld is the highest leadership in the unit (very stupid FAQ) the bell has ld 7 if the grey seer is there and ld 5 if there are clanrats. if both are gone, the bell has a ld of 0.

note that wounds are not randomized, hits are so whoever you roll on the randomisation, it gets all the wounds. also note that skaven only benifit from their extra leadership in panic, fear, terror and break tests.


Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:57 am
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flash29 wrote:
when aiming shooting attacks at a unit with a bell (or furnace) you must choose the bell (or furnace) or the unit as target. its one of the bell (or furnace) rules. then you do indeed randomize your 1 hit 5-6 is the grey seer (or plague monk), everything else is the bell (or furnace). as a models own unmodified ld is the highest leadership in the unit (very stupid FAQ) the bell has ld 7 if the grey seer is there and ld 5 if there are clanrats. if both are gone, the bell has a ld of 0.

note that wounds are not randomized, hits are so whoever you roll on the randomisation, it gets all the wounds. also note that skaven only benifit from their extra leadership in panic, fear, terror and break tests.


Its crystal clear, tnx

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The new vamp book has changed the wording for death shrieks and howls. The wording now indicates that wounds caused by these attacks are, "distributed as from shooting." Accordingly, the wounds would be randomized with 1-5 hitting the bell and 6 hitting the seer (pg. 43 skaven book).


Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:14 pm
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huh, thats right, weird. then again, its not unmodified or anything so I guess it makes sense to have it distribute wounds, rather then hits.


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