do shades suffer a -1 penalty to hit when moving

maximon · Post by **maximon** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:32 am

probably a stupid question, but I haven't screwed around with skirmished units at all so im trying shades out. do they a suffer a -1 penalty to hit for moving?

the reason I ask is because skinks don't suffer from moving and shooting, was wondering if that is because of quick to fire or skirmished

marcopollo · Post by **marcopollo** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:22 am

They do suffer the usual -1 for moving and shooting. But they can make march moves, and still shoot; just like fast cav. Even if they march, they still only suffer -1 for it. Usually you are double shooting too. So that is a total of -2, without any other modifiers. At BS 5 that is pretty good.

maximon · Post by **maximon** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:26 am

ohh, shades just got sexy... marching and shooting

Red... · Post by **Red...** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:28 am

Marcopollo is dead on.

the reason I ask is because skinks don't suffer from moving and shooting, was wondering if that is because of quick to fire or skirmished

To answer this part specifically: it's because of quick to fire. Our corsairs have the same rule.

Watchmaster · Post by **Watchmaster** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:34 am

Quick to fire will be listed on the weapon description usually. Skink javelins have it; if they use blowpipes, they should be taking the -1 penalty.

Vulcan · Post by **Vulcan** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:50 am

I thought in 8e, 'quick to fire' just meant a weapon could always be used for a stand & shoot and had nothing to do with movement.

Haagrum · Post by **Haagrum** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:56 am

Vulcan wrote:I thought in 8e, 'quick to fire' just meant a weapon could always be used for a stand & shoot and had nothing to do with movement.

I was operating under the same assumption for a while, but the BRB (p73) confirms that Quick To Fire removes the shooting and moving penalty and always allows you to Stand and Shoot as a charge reaction.

I'm somewhat perplexed by the fact that Bloodwrack Stare isn't Quick To Fire... it can't be THAT hard to look at someone when you're moving.

Post by **Dyvim tvar** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:50 pm

Yep - blood wrack stare is near useless because of range, multi shot and movement (or stand and shoot) penalties.

maximon · Post by **maximon** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:11 pm

alright thanks everyone

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