It's short and hairy, and it's in the way.

Darkprincess · Post by **Darkprincess** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 4:10 pm

I will of course be on the side of dark pinkness as usual

Hmmm, not sure who I hate the most, high elves or dwarfs. I think fluf alone dictates that the dwarfs should be more hated than the asur though - they are short, ugly, hairy and they don't even redeem themselves with pointy ears. Yuk :evil:

@Prince Cal: nice sig

Post by **Rork** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:15 pm

darkprincess wrote: they don't even redeem themselves with pointy ears. Yuk

Odd...All the dwarfs I was aware of had pointy ears...(though those were chaos dwarfs)

And it's Khorne, DP...

Beastmaster kurlan · Post by **Beastmaster kurlan** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:27 pm

why not i might as well join soon.

Eldacar · Post by **Eldacar** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:37 pm

Btw, how will the command structure look this time? As far as I could see last time, it was handled at a-org (because some of the loyalists were not members of d-net then). Will it be the same this time?

To a point, yes. A number of the Asur.org members are going to either the Dwarfs or the Druchii, but that doesn't mean that they automatically become the head of the faction, because that simply wouldn't be fair.

At least, I think that's what you're asking.

Lethalis · Post by **Lethalis** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:53 pm

Mornedhel wrote:Btw, how will the command structure look this time? As far as I could see last time, it was handled at a-org (because some of the loyalists were not members of d-net then). Will it be the same this time?

I can only assume that they will show a map, create the forums et all and give us some time to choose leaders and organise ourselves before the real thing starts.

Eldy wrote:At least, I think that's what you're asking.

I think you're being drunk again

Cenyu · Post by **Cenyu** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 8:45 pm

Sa'an'ishar!

My sword and shield for Malekith!

*trudges off to read into campaign rules*

Cal · Post by **Cal** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:02 pm

As far as I know sometime in January there will be a little bit onj your control panel where you can register, I imagine this will last for around a week so people have plenty of time to register and for the groups to decide their leader. Though people will have to request sides forumwhich includes being added by the group mod and for all those good willed cheats out there you will only be able to join one.

Oldone · Post by **Oldone** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:37 pm

This sounds like fun. Count me in - for the Druchii, of course.

Dearchon · Post by **Dearchon** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:26 pm

ok i found the archived campain bit, but couldnt find the rules and how it works etc, just lots of stuff on groupings and orders etc and lots of fluff . . .

Lethalis · Post by **Lethalis** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:45 pm

It's a bit hard to explain the rules without having actual screens, but I'll try to explain how last campaign went;

each player got to subscribe him/herself, choosing a ruler and a starting province. The choice of province decided what kind of warband you started with (generally a hero on foot, some spearelves, archers and different guys that were typical for that province, for example Nagarythe getting Death Guard as elites). You got certain points, forgot how they were called, but these points could be used to either expand your warband (buying spearelves, archers, silver helms etc) or buy shiney stuff for your leader (horse, better armour, etc etc). There was talking of implementing buying mages as well, but that never got off the ground.

So now that you got your warband, one could move the warband around. There was this map of Ulthuan, devided in all kinds of regions. Not provincial ones, but per city so to speak, kinda like Rome: Total War has. You could move through one region per turn (each turn lasting for a day or so) and upon entering a region there was the chance of getting into a fight with an enemy warband, though it was unknown whom you fought. Each turn, wins were registered and if one side had more than 20 victories in an area than the other one, they got control of that area. There were plans of implementing that you couldn't move through enemy territory but that never got implemented either, thus the whole campaign was a guerilla war without clear fronts.

One got one point per turn for free, another for a draw and two for a win. A spearelf or archer costed 1 point, silver helm 2, elite also two (moving into another province got you a different choice of elites, for example a warband from Tiranoc could get dragon princes if they moved into Caledor) etc etc.

That's pretty much it as far as I can remember, any other veteran got to add something?

Shaldekon · Post by **Shaldekon** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:57 pm

If your army didn't have a opponent of the same size you didn't figth. So in the end I fought maybe 6 times during the whole campaign... :roll:

fair but a bit boring. if someone who can affect the campign could invent a better system I would be thankful.

Ragnarok · Post by **Ragnarok** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:02 pm

As far as I know Anarion changed a few things. One of which is that you will now be able to see who your opponent was. And to tell the truth I never really had much trouble getting into fights with the traitors, also won most of them so im not complaining about it.

Cenyu · Post by **Cenyu** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:02 pm

Thanks for the summary, Leth... but how exactly are these warband skirmishes resolved? :-/

Dearchon · Post by **Dearchon** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:26 pm

cheers for that leth, much aprieciated

Lethalis · Post by **Lethalis** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 10:28 pm

Cenyu wrote:Thanks for the summary, Leth... but how exactly are these warband skirmishes resolved? :-/

Never really got how that happened, some program took care of it I thought. The results could therefore be rather random (your elites getting killed off and the spearelf taking on two by himself battle after battle). In the end though it was a funny race on whose hero got the most kills

Ragnarok · Post by **Ragnarok** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 10:35 pm

IIRC I won

Somewhere around the 60 kills if memory serves,

One-eye · Post by **One-eye** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:33 am

i would be glad to fight for our king even if it is only for fear of Shadowblade

you can count on the support of House Fermiekh - Lord K

Discipleofkhaine · Post by **Discipleofkhaine** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:39 am

Good thing my hydras are hungry. Them dwarfs are right at biting level

Count me in.

Loran · Post by **Loran** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:51 am

I was actually waiting for this campaign to see how the Sundering campaign affected this. Looks pretty good, we have Ulthuan :twisted:

Anyway, I really hope that the "moving through enemy territory" rule comes to effect. It was a bit boring in the end having a warband or two in every region fighting a guerilla war, but that's life. Mages would also be pretty nice

- Loran

Ansob. · Post by **Ansob.** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:34 am

Lord Khaladin wrote:even if it is only for fear of Shadowblade

...who won't be born for another five thousand years.

Ragnarok · Post by **Ragnarok** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:47 am

Probably if only because we will have secure forums their. I assume the command structure will be about the same. Save high command. Anarion probably would play im not to sure about what Nagathi is going to do and the same goes for Elmoth. I do believe that the Task Force's will be revived. I for one will do so for the Shield Of Malekith if Smoke Phoenix doesnt. We do have to start thinking about who should be the new high commanders though since were runing short on them.

Cal · Post by **Cal** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:30 pm

Nag has said he's playing asur, Elmoth as far as I know is going to which side needs more people (so methinks dawi) and I'm not sure if anarion is going to play as he's the lore in charge of the campaign so it looks as if we might need to start a new.

Beastmaster kurlan · Post by **Beastmaster kurlan** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:49 pm

just a question, when can we actually start playing and choosing armies etc

Loran · Post by **Loran** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:03 pm

In the mid january at the earliest. I'm personally not in a hurry to start the campaign until that time, since I'll be having a few long simulated battle exercises in the marines before the mid January.

- Loran

Garbidge · Post by **Garbidge** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:27 am

The campaign forum at A.org has opened; I've posted a roll-call there so we can now get the party started properly.