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Brachenshire
Executioner
Joined: Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:45 pm
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I don't know if this topic has been addressed before....but can a lord or hero join up with the hydra's handlers and be apart of that unit??
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| Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:48 am |
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Dread_knight_999
Warrior
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:34 pm
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i dont think so not a 100% but pretty sure you cant it would say in the army book if you could like with the chariot
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Lethalis
Loremaster
Joined: Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:30 pm
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Location: wow, who says I have a location?
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Nope, the rule 'Controlled' states that only beastmasters and apprentices can be around the Hydra.
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Vorchild
Master of the Red Legion
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Location: Land of Chill
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Exactly. That being said, if you want a shot at taking on a unit head on with this kind of a combo, you can add the beastmaster with the web of shadows and issue a challenge after charging in the front. If you get lucky, that'll score a few wounds for you and the hydra and apprentices should then be able to win the combat by a couple for you (and after that, it should get a bit easier to stick in the combat).
Now, that's just against basic infantry mind you and its a bit of a one shot pseudo-wonder. 
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Brachenshire
Executioner
Joined: Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:45 pm
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I never used Web of Shadows, but I may try the combo of beastmaster with hydra unit and give him something else nasty. I have to look at the book and decide..I am not convinced of the effectiveness of WoS
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Cenyu
Khaindar
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:29 am
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Location: Germany
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Its effectiveness varies wildly depending on which opponent you face.
For example it is an excellent tool to rip apart a fragile wizard or accumulate wounds on a weakly armoured and not too tough unit champion in a challenge. On the other hand - against a tank Dwarf the usefulness is diminuished somewhat, of course. 
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Phierlihy
Malekith's Best Friend
Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:19 am
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According to the DE book (thanks GW for another crap-tastic effort here) a Bastmaster character may only join a War Hydra unit AFTER one of the regular handlers has been killed. So for the other 99% of the time, the answer is no, a character cannot join.
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Sulla
Malekith's Best Friend
Joined: Fri Nov 08, 2002 5:56 am
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Location: Flying my manticore 'Bloodmaw', looking for prey.
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 I don't know how you got that interpretation. 
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Lethalis
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I disagree. It says that a beastmaster on foot can join the unit. Replacing a lost apprentice if you wish, but they can still join.
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Holt
Malekith's Best Friend
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:37 am
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I agree with this, otherwise you would have your BM runnning around following them waiting for an Apprentice to be knocked off so he/she can take their place. Seems a bit silly like that.
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Darthken
Assassin
Joined: Thu May 03, 2007 10:48 pm
Posts: 531
Location: Australia, the place where kangaroo's hop down the street with a can of fosters in their pouch
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yes the BM can join the hydra at any time
i had to "bite the bullet" once and ring the rulz boys at 'GW and they confirmed it
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Manaurith
Black Guard
Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:01 pm
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the question is aprentices get M6 tecnicly when with the hydra
would a beastmaster get the same or would the unit need to slow down.
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Fleshcollector
Noble
Joined: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:07 pm
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It would slow down.
I guess once you are no longer an Apprentice, your old age has slowed you a bit.
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