Dragon and lifetaker

Geoerichanson · Post by **Geoerichanson** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:02 am

QUestion for you guys, and I am sure this may have been asked at some time, but, If I have a noble with a life taker on a dragon. Can he still fly twenty, and then in the shooting phase, shoot hitting on 2+?

Khel · Post by **Khel** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:25 am

You can't take a noble on a dragon...Only a Highborn. But your question, im not sure, for i still have the 6th ed of the rules...damn my job...

Post by **Vorchild** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:54 am

Yeah, sure, why not? Its magic.

It actually works quite well when you give him blood armour as well and if you feel you've got enough armour, give him the wand as well. You'll get that 1+ armour save in no time and you make him a real missile platform. :twisted:

D'jihurccen · Post by **D'jihurccen** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:36 am

yeah the always hits on a 2+ overrules the normal modifiers to shooting, including everything from skirmishers and cover to long range and multishot.

Fingol darkwater · Post by **Fingol darkwater** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:37 am

Yes, you can certainly fly around and shoot.

Arisos · Post by **Arisos** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:56 am

Flying is not marching so yes he can shoot:D

Viper · Post by **Viper** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:09 am

If your goal is to be a missle platform you should go with a noble on Pegasus instead.

Geoerichanson · Post by **Geoerichanson** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:19 am

Viper wrote:If your goal is to be a missle platform you should go with a noble on Pegasus instead.

thank you all. Yet it seems that if not on a dragon, recognising the higher cost of the dragon, you reduce the fear and terror aspects of this game. So why not try to do it all with this as the druchii dragon seems more fragile than say a chaos dragon and such. It seems psyc, is really a part of the druchii game.

Geoerichanson · Post by **Geoerichanson** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:22 am

I guess what i mean is why not fly up close to a tough unit, causing a panic, and if they run, then shoot them as well. Seems like the Druchii way doesn't it?

- human · Post by **- human** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:47 pm

The benefit of using lifetaker (and the wand) on a dragon over a pegasus is that you can see over units and pick out anything you want to shoot - that's invaluable IMO.

Don't forget the breath weapon - I don't think these missiles make bad use of him. You can fly within 6" of several units, fire lifetaker, wand, breath weapon, and you're still causing terror checks.

Darkspear · Post by **Darkspear** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:50 pm

thank you all. Yet it seems that if not on a dragon, recognising the higher cost of the dragon, you reduce the fear and terror aspects of this game. So why not try to do it all with this as the druchii dragon seems more fragile than say a chaos dragon and such. It seems psyc, is really a part of the druchii game.

I don't know why some people mentioned that psychology is part of the druchii game when units take far less psychology tests in the 7th ed. well i still respect your statement though.

The benefit of using lifetaker (and the wand) on a dragon over a pegasus is that you can see over units and pick out anything you want to shoot - that's invaluable IMO.

Don't forget the breath weapon - I don't think these missiles make bad use of him. You can fly within 6" of several units, fire lifetaker, wand, breath weapon, and you're still causing terror checks.

Agree. Add all these plus a halberd makes the highborn a tough foe to beat

Whobetta · Post by **Whobetta** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:04 pm

so let me just get Blood Armor straight, once you get the save at 1+ it stays like that for the rest of the game correct? It doesnt say how long or short it stays in the book so just making sure

Drek · Post by **Drek** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:27 pm

Yes. As it changes, it stays changed for the rest of the game.

Wraithling · Post by **Wraithling** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:29 pm

correct blood armour adds 1 to your total armour for the whole battle.

Bloodfire · Post by **Bloodfire** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:56 pm

wow, ive gotta try this tactic out!! a terror causing mobile missile platform with a 1 up save [drools]

Bloodfire · Post by **Bloodfire** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:19 pm

Heres a question, how effective do you think this set up would be against wood elves?

Prince of arnheim · Post by **Prince of arnheim** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:24 pm

I think it would not be to good. Highborns on Dragons are meant to be CC monsters. You are wasting points with the lifetaker as it anyways. It isn't very good.

Marauder mitch2 · Post by **Marauder mitch2** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:29 pm

Lifetaker is good because the dragon is a bigger threat out of combat because it forces how your opponent reacts is important. So the shooting is beneficial for 3 turns and then the dragon can commit.

cheers rob

One-s · Post by **One-s** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:16 pm

[quote]Heres a question, how effective do you think this set up would be against wood elves?[/quote]

Stay away from the tree.
Shoot away wildriders and/ or wardancers.
Use the dragon to go after glade riders/ archers,
Take dryads one unit at a time with 2 chariots or a unit of CoK's

Something I forgot?

Post by **Dyvim tvar** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:45 pm

If you have the points, do it. As someone pointed pointed out, since the dragon is a large target, you can pick out models for shooting that you might otherwise not be able to see. And a dragon used properly normally is not in combat straight away, so you will have a chance to use Lifetaker. Definitely take it against Skaven and especially against Vampire COunts so you can snipe Banshees.