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Geoerichanson
Slave (off the Altar)
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:18 am Posts: 11
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QUestion for you guys, and I am sure this may have been asked at some time, but, If I have a noble with a life taker on a dragon. Can he still fly twenty, and then in the shooting phase, shoot hitting on 2+?
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:02 am |
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Khel
Angel of Darkness
Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:06 am Posts: 3455 Location: Australia
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You can't take a noble on a dragon...Only a Highborn. But your question, im not sure, for i still have the 6th ed of the rules...damn my job...
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:25 am |
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Vorchild
Master of the Red Legion
Joined: Sat Oct 19, 2002 1:06 pm Posts: 7037 Location: Land of Chill
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Yeah, sure, why not? Its magic.  It actually works quite well when you give him blood armour as well and if you feel you've got enough armour, give him the wand as well. You'll get that 1+ armour save in no time and you make him a real missile platform. 
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:54 am |
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D'jihurccen
Executioner
Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:20 am Posts: 167
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yeah the always hits on a 2+ overrules the normal modifiers to shooting, including everything from skirmishers and cover to long range and multishot.
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:36 am |
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Fingol darkwater
Witch King's Envoy
Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:10 am Posts: 1416 Location: the wild, wild west
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Yes, you can certainly fly around and shoot.
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:37 am |
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Arisos
Executioner
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:06 am Posts: 184 Location: Behind the computer, where else?
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Flying is not marching so yes he can shoot:D
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:56 am |
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Viper
Highborn
Joined: Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:23 pm Posts: 649 Location: Norfolk, VA
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If your goal is to be a missle platform you should go with a noble on Pegasus instead.
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:09 am |
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Geoerichanson
Slave (off the Altar)
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:18 am Posts: 11
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thank you all. Yet it seems that if not on a dragon, recognising the higher cost of the dragon, you reduce the fear and terror aspects of this game. So why not try to do it all with this as the druchii dragon seems more fragile than say a chaos dragon and such. It seems psyc, is really a part of the druchii game.
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:19 am |
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Geoerichanson
Slave (off the Altar)
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:18 am Posts: 11
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I guess what i mean is why not fly up close to a tough unit, causing a panic, and if they run, then shoot them as well. Seems like the Druchii way doesn't it?
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:22 am |
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- human
Adept of Khaine
Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2002 6:21 pm Posts: 2068 Location: Toronto
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The benefit of using lifetaker (and the wand) on a dragon over a pegasus is that you can see over units and pick out anything you want to shoot - that's invaluable IMO.
Don't forget the breath weapon - I don't think these missiles make bad use of him. You can fly within 6" of several units, fire lifetaker, wand, breath weapon, and you're still causing terror checks.
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:47 pm |
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Darkspear
Malekith's Best Friend
Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2003 2:50 am Posts: 1521 Location: A Tropical island near the Pacific
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I don't know why some people mentioned that psychology is part of the druchii game when units take far less psychology tests in the 7th ed. well i still respect your statement though.
Agree. Add all these plus a halberd makes the highborn a tough foe to beat
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:50 pm |
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Whobetta
Black Guard
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 12:48 pm Posts: 258
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so let me just get Blood Armor straight, once you get the save at 1+ it stays like that for the rest of the game correct? It doesnt say how long or short it stays in the book so just making sure
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:04 pm |
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Drek
Malekith's Best Friend
Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2003 4:48 pm Posts: 1031 Location: Naggaroth...where the ice cream never melts
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Yes. As it changes, it stays changed for the rest of the game.
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:27 pm |
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Wraithling
Slave (off the Altar)
Joined: Thu May 31, 2007 1:48 pm Posts: 18
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correct blood armour adds 1 to your total armour for the whole battle.
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:29 pm |
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Bloodfire
Corsair
Joined: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:47 pm Posts: 75 Location: Scourging the Northern wastes (Barnsley)
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wow, ive gotta try this tactic out!! a terror causing mobile missile platform with a 1 up save [drools]
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:56 pm |
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Bloodfire
Corsair
Joined: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:47 pm Posts: 75 Location: Scourging the Northern wastes (Barnsley)
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Heres a question, how effective do you think this set up would be against wood elves?
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:19 pm |
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Prince of arnheim
Renegade Reaver
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:21 pm Posts: 1612 Location: Regina,Saskatchewan,Canada
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I think it would not be to good. Highborns on Dragons are meant to be CC monsters. You are wasting points with the lifetaker as it anyways. It isn't very good.
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:24 pm |
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Marauder mitch2
Malekith's Best Friend
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:48 am Posts: 1575 Location: Menoth Wills it - Hippies or Goths
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Lifetaker is good because the dragon is a bigger threat out of combat because it forces how your opponent reacts is important. So the shooting is beneficial for 3 turns and then the dragon can commit.
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:29 pm |
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One-s
Beastmaster
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:54 pm Posts: 364 Location: Genk - Belgium
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[quote]Heres a question, how effective do you think this set up would be against wood elves?[/quote]
Stay away from the tree.
Shoot away wildriders and/ or wardancers.
Use the dragon to go after glade riders/ archers,
Take dryads one unit at a time with 2 chariots or a unit of CoK's
Something I forgot?
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Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:16 pm |
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Dyvim tvar
Lord of the Dragon Caves
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2003 6:34 pm Posts: 8372 Location: The Dragon Caves of the Underway (Indianapolis IN)
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If you have the points, do it. As someone pointed pointed out, since the dragon is a large target, you can pick out models for shooting that you might otherwise not be able to see. And a dragon used properly normally is not in combat straight away, so you will have a chance to use Lifetaker. Definitely take it against Skaven and especially against Vampire COunts so you can snipe Banshees.
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