Brotherhood of the Coast – The Druchii Corsair League
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:54 pm
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Most of you probably spotted my Corsair’s signature and observed that my rank stayed as Corsair since my 75th post.
This kind of bestows me with some responsibility in monitoring any Corsair-related matters.
Claiming to be a Corsair aficionado, I’d like to promote:
- the inclusion of Corsairs in army lists,
- the development of efficient tactical uses for Corsairs and
- the report of extraordinary Corsair Tales in Battle Reports.
There might be something to do in order to improve the situation of Corsairs and Corsair-related matters.
Are Corsairs underestimated?
After 6 months of practice of the new Army Book, players have had time to make an opinion about the merits of every kind of units.
The Corsairs, however, seem not to be overwhelmingly appreciated.
So far, I’ve seen that some of us are hooked by the Corsair fluff or appearance, but not too many seem convinced by the tactical performance of the two Corsair units we now have (AHW or RHB) nor of Lokhir Fellheart, our new special hero.
Compared to the previous edition, where they were highly appreciated, Corsairs had little change except the arrival of RHB corsairs which seem not to convince many.
At the same time, all other Core units have benefited from steady improvements or cost reductions that make them more attractive than before.
As a result, the comparative advantage of Corsairs has disappeared.
The main reason to take Corsairs seems now to be for the fluff or the beauty of the models, and most army lists don’t field any.
The resulting consequence is that little experience is gained and shared about the uses of Corsairs.
I would like this situation to improve!
EDIT: the situation did improve! Dark Alliance provided us with the best tactics he has found for corsair units:
One for Calisson - some Corsair tactics I have used...
The D.R.A.I.C.H. Corsair entrieshave some links to threads with interesting developments.
Corsair-flavoured army lists.
EDIT: I used to have a specific entry in the D.R.A.I.C.H. for Corsair armies.
Now the list of corsair-themed armies is found in the present thread, on top of page 3.
Do we need a Corsair League?
Do you feel it is enough?
Could you suggest some improvement?
For example, we could use the present thread as a Corsair League meeting point, if anyone felt it useful.
At least, I will try to record below some Corsair-related facts, which you could help me to complete.
The Corsair spirit.
You can find Corsairs & Lokhir entries in the following pages of the Army Book:
6, 14, 15, 16, 18, 26, 27, 29, 33, 40, 44, 45, 48, 49, 54, 60, 61 and 69.
The Corsairs are fighting for Gold, Glory, and Slaves! They fear no risk.
I consider them to be totally opposite to the Cult of Khaine, which loves to murder without necessity. A true Corsair would rather bring back home slaves alive and sell them.
In addition, we can state from the previous Army Book that Harpies like to go with Corsairs, and RBTs are routinely part of a Corsair raid.
What is to be considered a Corsair List?
This is up to everyone to decide himself.
Personally, I would consider a list to be Corsair fluff-wise according to the units it fields or it avoids.
I would suggest the following rate for the units of a would-be Corsair list:
- Corsairs units, worth twice their pts value:
Lokhir Fellheart, Corsairs,
- Corsair-fluff-compatible, worth their pts value:
Dreadlord, Master, High sorceress, Sorceress, Multi-crossbowmen, Dark Riders, Harpies, Assassin, Shades, Reaper Bolt Thrower, Manticore (see Iyagd's comment, 9 posts below),, Dragons (see Johnz(CZ)' comments, next page)
- Corsair-neutral, worth nothing for a Corsair list:
Malekith, Morathi, Malus Darkblade, Shadowblade, Pegasus, Cold One, Warriors, Cold One Knights, Cold One Chariot, Black Guards, Kouran, War Hydra,
- Opposite to Corsair fluff, worth opposite (minus) their pts value:
Hellebron, Death Hag, Cauldron of Blood, Witch Elves, Executioners, Tullaris,
The total “Corsair-pts” value is to be compared to the regular pts value.
Compute which percentage it makes.
If the total “Corsair-pts” value exceeds the pts value (more than 100%), it is a genuine corsair list.
If the total “Corsair-pts” value is positive (between 0% and 100%), it is a real raiding list.
What would you think about this categorization?
Army lists names:
In order for us to spot Corsair lists with ease, I suggest to always include in the title of the thread some of the following words:
Corsair, Lokhir, Black Arch, Karond Kar, raiding.
That’s it for the moment.
Please answer below with your own feelings.
And remember:
GO NAVY!
.-..~.|).~.........Hi mates!
.../|).|).|)\
..L |).|).|) \
...4EEEEF/¨
~~~~~~~~~~~
Most of you probably spotted my Corsair’s signature and observed that my rank stayed as Corsair since my 75th post.
This kind of bestows me with some responsibility in monitoring any Corsair-related matters.
Claiming to be a Corsair aficionado, I’d like to promote:
- the inclusion of Corsairs in army lists,
- the development of efficient tactical uses for Corsairs and
- the report of extraordinary Corsair Tales in Battle Reports.
There might be something to do in order to improve the situation of Corsairs and Corsair-related matters.
Are Corsairs underestimated?
After 6 months of practice of the new Army Book, players have had time to make an opinion about the merits of every kind of units.
The Corsairs, however, seem not to be overwhelmingly appreciated.
So far, I’ve seen that some of us are hooked by the Corsair fluff or appearance, but not too many seem convinced by the tactical performance of the two Corsair units we now have (AHW or RHB) nor of Lokhir Fellheart, our new special hero.
Compared to the previous edition, where they were highly appreciated, Corsairs had little change except the arrival of RHB corsairs which seem not to convince many.
At the same time, all other Core units have benefited from steady improvements or cost reductions that make them more attractive than before.
As a result, the comparative advantage of Corsairs has disappeared.
The main reason to take Corsairs seems now to be for the fluff or the beauty of the models, and most army lists don’t field any.
The resulting consequence is that little experience is gained and shared about the uses of Corsairs.
I would like this situation to improve!
EDIT: the situation did improve! Dark Alliance provided us with the best tactics he has found for corsair units:
One for Calisson - some Corsair tactics I have used...
The D.R.A.I.C.H. Corsair entrieshave some links to threads with interesting developments.
Corsair-flavoured army lists.
EDIT: I used to have a specific entry in the D.R.A.I.C.H. for Corsair armies.
Now the list of corsair-themed armies is found in the present thread, on top of page 3.
Do we need a Corsair League?
Do you feel it is enough?
Could you suggest some improvement?
For example, we could use the present thread as a Corsair League meeting point, if anyone felt it useful.
At least, I will try to record below some Corsair-related facts, which you could help me to complete.
The Corsair spirit.
You can find Corsairs & Lokhir entries in the following pages of the Army Book:
6, 14, 15, 16, 18, 26, 27, 29, 33, 40, 44, 45, 48, 49, 54, 60, 61 and 69.
The Corsairs are fighting for Gold, Glory, and Slaves! They fear no risk.
I consider them to be totally opposite to the Cult of Khaine, which loves to murder without necessity. A true Corsair would rather bring back home slaves alive and sell them.
In addition, we can state from the previous Army Book that Harpies like to go with Corsairs, and RBTs are routinely part of a Corsair raid.
What is to be considered a Corsair List?
This is up to everyone to decide himself.
Personally, I would consider a list to be Corsair fluff-wise according to the units it fields or it avoids.
I would suggest the following rate for the units of a would-be Corsair list:
- Corsairs units, worth twice their pts value:
Lokhir Fellheart, Corsairs,
- Corsair-fluff-compatible, worth their pts value:
Dreadlord, Master, High sorceress, Sorceress, Multi-crossbowmen, Dark Riders, Harpies, Assassin, Shades, Reaper Bolt Thrower, Manticore (see Iyagd's comment, 9 posts below),, Dragons (see Johnz(CZ)' comments, next page)
- Corsair-neutral, worth nothing for a Corsair list:
Malekith, Morathi, Malus Darkblade, Shadowblade, Pegasus, Cold One, Warriors, Cold One Knights, Cold One Chariot, Black Guards, Kouran, War Hydra,
- Opposite to Corsair fluff, worth opposite (minus) their pts value:
Hellebron, Death Hag, Cauldron of Blood, Witch Elves, Executioners, Tullaris,
The total “Corsair-pts” value is to be compared to the regular pts value.
Compute which percentage it makes.
If the total “Corsair-pts” value exceeds the pts value (more than 100%), it is a genuine corsair list.
If the total “Corsair-pts” value is positive (between 0% and 100%), it is a real raiding list.
What would you think about this categorization?
Army lists names:
In order for us to spot Corsair lists with ease, I suggest to always include in the title of the thread some of the following words:
Corsair, Lokhir, Black Arch, Karond Kar, raiding.
That’s it for the moment.
Please answer below with your own feelings.
And remember:
GO NAVY!