Sacrificial Dagger - what models have you sacrificed already

Post by **Thanee** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:26 pm

Hey!

Just for the fun of it... what models have you sacrificed already with the Sacrificial Dagger?

Me:
Dark Elf Warriors. Ok, standard.
Dark Elf Repeater Crossbowmen. Also fairly standard.
But also Black Guard and at least one Dark Rider. :lol:

I don't think I have sacrificed Cold One Knights yet... though I'm not entirely sure.

You?

Anyone sacrifice crew members of a Reaper for an extra PD? The first? The last even?

Bye
Thanee

Post by **Dalamar** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:47 am

I am a firm believer that a dark elf will serve better dying by the enemy blade than by my own. I haven't even used the dagger once yet.

Ehakir · Post by **Ehakir** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:44 am

Just the warriors... but the RBT crew seems a nice idea as well ^^

~arcane~ · Post by **~arcane~** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:40 am

Given the chance, any self respecting Druchii sorceress would sacrifice that annoying unit champion with the Ring of Hotek who's messing her spells up, so make sure you keep them apart

Tigtoad · Post by **Tigtoad** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:05 pm

I don't know... war machine crews skirmish, the dagger says may sacrafice in btb contact.. I would argue you couldn't kill a scout or crew member with it.

My buddy joked that i should mount a level 4 sorceress on a dragon and murder the dragon for a key power die. I wouldn't do it, but it sounded funny.

I have murdered xbowmen and spearelves. I would have no problem taking out a black guard if i had to. I guess the next step up would be corsair.. but I rearely use them.

Kheel · Post by **Kheel** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:01 pm

TigToad wrote:I don't know... war machine crews skirmish, the dagger says may sacrafice in btb contact.. I would argue you couldn't kill a scout or crew member with it.

My buddy joked that i should mount a level 4 sorceress on a dragon and murder the dragon for a key power die. I wouldn't do it, but it sounded funny.

I have murdered xbowmen and spearelves. I would have no problem taking out a black guard if i had to. I guess the next step up would be corsair.. but I rearely use them.

I agree with you.
I wouldn't want to sacrifice the bolt throwers crew members, because then it has no chance to fire! D'oh!
But since they are skirmish, I'm quite sure that you can.

As for the dragon, I'm fairly sure that they both count as a single model, which means that they are not in base to base, they are the same base.
Making it impossible to sacrifice the dragon in any way.

However, take your most expensive Lord and use a level 1 sorc with sac daggers on and sacrifice the Lord. I dare you to try it! Or would the "look out Sir!" rule apply to that as well?

Amras · Post by **Amras** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:24 pm

Hmmm. How about sacrificing Malekith?

Why? · Post by **Why?** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:20 am

Does the enemy get VP for the dead model ? Because if you killed the drago nthen you are denying them points...

Darthken · Post by **Darthken** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:56 am

probably sacrificed about 60-70 warriors since the book came out

Right hand of khaine · Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:18 am

I would only sacrifice warriors and crossbows for the simple reason they are the least powerful troop choices, cheap and expendable without having to worry about the tide of battle changing because of an idiotic decision.

Seeing somebody sacrifice something more powerful would certainly add to the amusement factor, but best done only when the unit becomes powerless to otherwise have an affect.

Killing a character for a measly single power dice would be a highlight if it resulted in a magic phase which destroyed the enemy, but otherwise just a sure fine way to lose the game.....an interesting assassination idea however.....

Right Hand of Khaine

Fr0 · Post by **Fr0** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:00 am

21 DE spears, and worth every point.

She destoyed a unit of 7 Chaos Knights, 20 Marauders, and a Chaos sorcerer.

Skulls for khaine · Post by **Skulls for khaine** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:53 pm

Morathi's Pegasus has fallen to a sac dagger in a game of mine...

She then joined a unit of Warriors and killed 15 of them :twisted:

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Crawd · Post by **Crawd** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:21 pm

A unit of 25 warriors is awesome for this item. You basicly don't have to worry about the panic check since you can sacrifice, if needed, 3 warriors per turn all the game (Unless they lose some models by shooting or close combat) and you won't even have a single panic check with the dagger.

With a unit like that, it's almost like she's having a backpack of power stone

Post by **Calisson** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:44 pm

Skulls for Khaine wrote:Morathi's Pegasus has fallen to a sac dagger in a game of mine...

Not RAW: the sorceress can sacrifice a model from a unit she has joined (nothing prevents them to be skirmishers).
But the idea was imaginative.

And what a cost! The peggy plus 15 warriors (or 25 warriors) plus the dagger itself, that makes it one of the most expansive magic item in the game.
Yes, powerful. But priceless...

Rob the dark elf · Post by **Rob the dark elf** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:56 am

Mainly warriors as they're the cheapest. I would consider crossbowmen though. I only ever give the dagger to a L2 sorceress, I once gave it a level 4 and I couldn't resist killing 4-5 of my own men each magic phase. She was powerful but the unit just fell apart, d'oh! It was quite funny though.

Post by **Thanee** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:08 pm

TigToad wrote:I don't know... war machine crews skirmish, the dagger says may sacrafice in btb contact.

Uhm... war machine crews do not skirmish (they are just commonly placed like skirmishers, but nothing prevents them from standing btb) and the dagger also doesn't say anything about btb contact.

Calisson wrote:the sorceress can sacrifice a model from a unit she has joined

I just wonder... can you sacrifice an actual RBT then!?

Gonna have to do this, just for the look on my opponent's face (though sacrificing Malekith would still be the most awesome, I guess, especially if Morathi does it (after getting her peggie shot down, so that she actually can do it)). :lol:

Bye
Thanee

Post by **Calisson** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:48 pm

Thanee wrote:
Calisson wrote:the sorceress can sacrifice a model from a unit she has joined

I just wonder... can you sacrifice an actual RBT then!?

Gonna have to do this, just for the look on my opponent's face

Yep!

At least in the French edition (usually very accurate translation), they mention the word "figurine" which means model.
Be aware that the sorceress cannot join a RBT with no handler however, so it would be effectively a sacrifice of a working unit... but definitevely worth if about to be charged, and 2 handlers + 1 RBT = 3 sacc dice. :twisted:

Ebonyphoenix · Post by **Ebonyphoenix** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:45 am

I keep the dagger in a unit of spearmen. Since I only put it on a lv4 she goes through them pretty fast.
I once put her in a unit of 30 against lizardmen. She had dark magic spells 2,4,5, and 6 and had butchered the unit to the standard bearer by the end of turn 6. :shock:

Mordru · Post by **Mordru** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:53 am

I have slain rxb, spears and corsairs by the handfuls. Never sliced an cavalry models with the thing yet.