Rate your success !!!
Moderators: Layne, The Dread Knights
Or maybe you're not using them right? Wrong matchups will turn any good unit bad
What's mine is mine, What's yours is mine.
Now that we understand each other, lets get down to business.
Jacks -Shade
- WS 5 - - S 3 - - T 2 - - D 6 - - I 5 -
Equipment
Short Sword, MC Long Sword*, Dagger, RxB & RHB [20/10] MC Shade Cloak, 4 Throwing Daggers, 3x Healing Vials, 451C, [3]Dark Venom, [4]Unseen Chains, Food, Dark Steed- Spike
Skills
Basic Stealth, Awareness, TWF, Suithenlu Khythan, Ride
Magic Item
Eye of the Jabberwock
*Magical properties possibly imbued
Now that we understand each other, lets get down to business.
Jacks -Shade
- WS 5 - - S 3 - - T 2 - - D 6 - - I 5 -
Equipment
Short Sword, MC Long Sword*, Dagger, RxB & RHB [20/10] MC Shade Cloak, 4 Throwing Daggers, 3x Healing Vials, 451C, [3]Dark Venom, [4]Unseen Chains, Food, Dark Steed- Spike
Skills
Basic Stealth, Awareness, TWF, Suithenlu Khythan, Ride
Magic Item
Eye of the Jabberwock
*Magical properties possibly imbued
Indeed Meteor - right back at everyone who's rated any unit poorly - actually, that was the entire point of my first contribution to this thread
"While all answers are replies, not all replies are answers. So answer the question."
Don't be a munchkin?
I am an Extraordinary Druchii Gentleman
Don't be a munchkin?
I am an Extraordinary Druchii Gentleman
- Mr. anderson
- Dark Illusionist
- Posts: 2270
- Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:25 am
- Location: Dating a Witch elf...
Red... wrote:Indeed Meteor - right back at everyone who's rated any unit poorly - actually, that was the entire point of my first contribution to this thread
You've got a point there. I think what helps more is that people state who they played against and what they've found useful against those armies. I've had situations where I wished I had taken RBT, and cursed my hydra for being useless.
You can make anything work, if you know how (well, almost anything) and I like all-comers lists better than tailored ones, because by nature, some armies can provide more options for min-maxing against certain enemies than others. Just think of eldar - if an eldar player has all units at his disposal, and knows who he'll play against, then the match will be in favour of the eldar player. This works for dark elves as well, because we have so many different units, and the only thing we really lack is something like 100 model-units that just sit there, not dying.
When I think of something witty, I shall put it here.
-
- Corsair
- Posts: 76
- Joined: Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:17 pm
Went to 2 tournaments in 8ed and ended up 2nd in both with a msu style dark elf list.
3x 17 warriors
3x 5 harpies
2x 10 rxb
2x 5 cok
3x coc
2x 5 witch elf
5 shades ehw
2x hydra
master pegasuss cloak of hag graef
cualdron bsb
lvl 2
the best units is by a good margin the cok with cualdron support
the next most important units for me is the harpies, followed by the hydras.
all the rest exept the rxbs performe good on a regular basis.
3x 17 warriors
3x 5 harpies
2x 10 rxb
2x 5 cok
3x coc
2x 5 witch elf
5 shades ehw
2x hydra
master pegasuss cloak of hag graef
cualdron bsb
lvl 2
the best units is by a good margin the cok with cualdron support
the next most important units for me is the harpies, followed by the hydras.
all the rest exept the rxbs performe good on a regular basis.
-
- Trainee Warrior
- Posts: 41
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:55 pm
- Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
I've played a few games with DE in 8th ed.
My big unit of cold one knights has been awesome along with my 2 hydras and my lvl 4 on dp with lore of death. I must admit although i am beginning to see the point of view of people who think blackguard are awesome i still struggle to se why you would use them. They are very very fragile and extremely expensive against some armies i guess they might be worth it but i play skaven most by far and bg will never ever make their points back against them.
My big unit of cold one knights has been awesome along with my 2 hydras and my lvl 4 on dp with lore of death. I must admit although i am beginning to see the point of view of people who think blackguard are awesome i still struggle to se why you would use them. They are very very fragile and extremely expensive against some armies i guess they might be worth it but i play skaven most by far and bg will never ever make their points back against them.
So far, 5 games for 4 solid victories and 1 massacre!
- Against my nemesis, daemons, I won twice.
- Dwarf with lot of warchines
- Beastmen. 6 minotaures got slaughtered by my WE
- VC with dragon.
It looks like that there is a common pick on the most valuable unit: A stunning unit of 10-12 COK!
Otherwise, my other MVU are: 24 execs and 24 WE (3 ranks of
Underperforming units: shades, harpies
I haven't fielded yet the double hydras combo, neither my 20 black guards!!!
- Against my nemesis, daemons, I won twice.
- Dwarf with lot of warchines
- Beastmen. 6 minotaures got slaughtered by my WE
- VC with dragon.
It looks like that there is a common pick on the most valuable unit: A stunning unit of 10-12 COK!
Otherwise, my other MVU are: 24 execs and 24 WE (3 ranks of
Underperforming units: shades, harpies
I haven't fielded yet the double hydras combo, neither my 20 black guards!!!
Our club's facebook page:
Fantastique Bataillon de Joinville
Look for French tourneys pics galleries!
Fantastique Bataillon de Joinville
Look for French tourneys pics galleries!
Ok I added up posted results as best I could. The results are not 100% acurate because everyone posted a little differently (wich is fine). Some posts were a little too vague to make a "counted" tally for certian columns.
Here are the results;
Best performances:
-Hydra 7
-CoK 6
-CoB 5
-Lv4 5
-BG 4
-C0C 3
-Harpies 3
-sss Cors 2
-We, Exec 1ea
Worst Performances;
-RxB 7
-CoC 2
-Harpies 2
-BG, BT, DR, Lv4, Spears and shades 1
Wins Vs ...
-WoC 23
-VC 7
-DoC 6
-BM 5
-Dwarf 5
-Skaven 5
-OK 5
-WE 4
-HE 4
-Empire 4
-Brets 3
-Liz 2
-O&G 2
TOTAL 75
Loss vs ...
-WoC 6
-Dwarf 6
-HE 5
-Liz 4
-OK 3
-DoC 2
-O&G 2
-Skaven 2
-WE 2
-Empire 2
-Brets 1
TOTAL 35
Undisclosed wins vs....
-VC, O&G, Emp & WE = 9 or 10
-unknown 8
-HE, WoC, ? 10
-Dwarf, skaven, warriors, Liz and ? (most possible, could be less) 20
Undisclosed losses vs ....
-Brets and dwarfs 2
-HE, WoC 8
-Skaven, warriors, VC and HE (Lowest possible, could be higher) 4
Here are the results;
Best performances:
-Hydra 7
-CoK 6
-CoB 5
-Lv4 5
-BG 4
-C0C 3
-Harpies 3
-sss Cors 2
-We, Exec 1ea
Worst Performances;
-RxB 7
-CoC 2
-Harpies 2
-BG, BT, DR, Lv4, Spears and shades 1
Wins Vs ...
-WoC 23
-VC 7
-DoC 6
-BM 5
-Dwarf 5
-Skaven 5
-OK 5
-WE 4
-HE 4
-Empire 4
-Brets 3
-Liz 2
-O&G 2
TOTAL 75
Loss vs ...
-WoC 6
-Dwarf 6
-HE 5
-Liz 4
-OK 3
-DoC 2
-O&G 2
-Skaven 2
-WE 2
-Empire 2
-Brets 1
TOTAL 35
Undisclosed wins vs....
-VC, O&G, Emp & WE = 9 or 10
-unknown 8
-HE, WoC, ? 10
-Dwarf, skaven, warriors, Liz and ? (most possible, could be less) 20
Undisclosed losses vs ....
-Brets and dwarfs 2
-HE, WoC 8
-Skaven, warriors, VC and HE (Lowest possible, could be higher) 4
Too Cold
Only Khaine can judge me!
Only Khaine can judge me!
Taking only certain results
Win ratio 68,2%
VC 100,0%
BM 100,0%
WoC 79,3%
DoC 75,0%
Brets 75,0%
Skaven 71,4%
WE 66,7%
Empire 66,7%
OK 62,5%
O&G 50,0%
Dwarf 45,5%
HE 44,4%
Liz 33,3%
Win ratio 68,2%
VC 100,0%
BM 100,0%
WoC 79,3%
DoC 75,0%
Brets 75,0%
Skaven 71,4%
WE 66,7%
Empire 66,7%
OK 62,5%
O&G 50,0%
Dwarf 45,5%
HE 44,4%
Liz 33,3%
Winds never stop blowing, Oceans are borderless. Get a ship and a crew, so the World will be ours! Today the World, tomorrow Nagg! {--|oBrotherhood of the Coast!o|--}