I lost in a practice 2400 game.badly lol
but one shot I REALLY wasn't expecting was a massive horde of Empire spears against my cute unit of 30. Shielded, they cost what we cost naked. and... interestingly enough, he noted that Spears in 8th don't actually note Require 2 Hands, so he managed to pull off 5+ AS, and extra +6 save.
Basically, he played it behind a war altar, and had about 6* 10. when he charged, he used the Free 90 degrees for most of the charge, and had Free Reformed via Musician. As soon as he tagged my front (tho he WAS trying to flank), the rest was just closing the door.
so... when did the shield parry come for spears?
and how would WE use a 6* 10 horde since (while not GREAT) it is an option?
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Spears aren't hand weapons so they don't receive a parry bonus. They would sit at JUST a 5+ armor save
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Firstly I think DE Warriors compare pretty well against Empire Spearmen getting Hatred, +1M, +1WS, +2I & +1Ld for that extra point with the only loss being the detachment rule.
Spears have always counted as being able to be used in conjunction with shields since at least 5th Edition. This isn't a recent change.
He has misinterpreted the rule regarding the ward save though as spears do not count as a hand weapon and thus do not receive the 6+ parry save.
In my opinion the 6 x 10 horde is probably sub-optimal but why not give it a go, at the very least it would look cool on the battlefield.
Spears have always counted as being able to be used in conjunction with shields since at least 5th Edition. This isn't a recent change.
He has misinterpreted the rule regarding the ward save though as spears do not count as a hand weapon and thus do not receive the 6+ parry save.
In my opinion the 6 x 10 horde is probably sub-optimal but why not give it a go, at the very least it would look cool on the battlefield.
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Group 28
Name - Seijl Illydrien Class- Shade
Character Stats
- WS 6 - - S 3 - - T 3 - - D 4 - - I 4 -
Equipment
MC Light Armour, MC Buckler, MC Longsword,, Repeater Crossbow, Dagger w/ UC, Dagger w/ DV Shade Cloak. Field Kit (Healing x3), Vials of Unseen Chains (x3 uses) , Vials of Dark Venom (x4 uses) , Lamia Fang, Harpy Claws
Circlets : 260, , Emerald Eye (200Circ.) Rations: 10/10 Bolts: 16/20 , Null Stone
Skills
Basic Stealth - Heal
Name - Seijl Illydrien Class- Shade
Character Stats
- WS 6 - - S 3 - - T 3 - - D 4 - - I 4 -
Equipment
MC Light Armour, MC Buckler, MC Longsword,, Repeater Crossbow, Dagger w/ UC, Dagger w/ DV Shade Cloak. Field Kit (Healing x3), Vials of Unseen Chains (x3 uses) , Vials of Dark Venom (x4 uses) , Lamia Fang, Harpy Claws
Circlets : 260, , Emerald Eye (200Circ.) Rations: 10/10 Bolts: 16/20 , Null Stone
Skills
Basic Stealth - Heal
Re: SPEAR HORDE!
L1qw1d wrote:and how would WE use a 6* 10 horde since (while not GREAT) it is an option?
Not much of one. An extra 7-10 WS4, S3 attacks for deploying 10 wide? Wouldn't bother. Spend the points on something else, or form up 10*6 instead to be sure of Steadfast.
