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I'm involved in a growth league that started at 500 points, and goes to 2000, increasing 250 points each round. At what level would you suggest the addition of a BSB? Also, what are the pros and cons of taking a cauldron over a magical standard? What might be better with what types of armies?

Shane

Probably between 1000-1200. Depends if you want them mounted or on foot.

saintofm wrote:Probably between 1000-1200. Depends if you want them mounted or on foot.

I would most likely be fielding him on foot. Would it be better to put him in a unit and give him a magic standard, or give him offensive goodies to kill stuff better? Can a unit benefit from two magic banners in it?

Also recall: You're going to be able to make the BSB part of your Cauldron when you reach the appropriate point level (for 225... don't think the points for the Standard go against the numeric %'s )

and Oh yes they can stack, so long as there is no rule against stacking (eg: if you had Frenzy and somehow got an...example banner... of Frenzy? only one Frenzy counts, only one extra attack) most common examples of this is Hag Graef for the BSB and Murder for the unit

L1qw1d wrote:Also recall: You're going to be able to make the BSB part of your Cauldron when you reach the appropriate point level (for 225... don't think the points for the Standard go against the numeric %'s )

and Oh yes they can stack, so long as there is no rule against stacking (eg: if you had Frenzy and somehow got an...example banner... of Frenzy? only one Frenzy counts, only one extra attack) most common examples of this is Hag Graef for the BSB and Murder for the unit

Can the cauldron and its attendants be bunkered in a unit like a normal bsb?

The Cauldron is a WarMachine, so no- but recall: only 6 melee attackers can go after it, shooters are shooting at T10. I've always been unclear if another model can join since the models are now 'placeholders' for its Wounds (btw we sneak an extra wound in. Heh).

The reason it's considered a bit better is the 12" bubble for the Stubborn I believe and its Blessings and the defencibility offered. Sure, you only move 5" a turn, but hey, most people get VERY protective of the thing that gives them their Ward, an attack or their KB

BTW: Cancel: finally had 20 whole minutes to myself, and lo pg 97. No characters to War Machines, Monsters, or...pretty much anything 'unsafe for them'

Guess Hellebron has no Cauldron

L1qw1d wrote:BTW: Cancel: finally had 20 whole minutes to myself, and lo pg 97. No characters to War Machines, Monsters, or...pretty much anything 'unsafe for them'

Guess Hellebron has no Cauldron

Army Books supercedes BRB though, and the DE book tells us Hellebron can join a cauldron. Which creates a confusing situation, since it also tells us she replaces the Death Hag.

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Q: If Crone Hellebron accompanies a Cauldron of Blood, does she
replace the Death Hag? Furthermore, if she does this does she become
an additional crew member? (p66)
A: Yes to both.