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Kouran

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:10 pm
by Dalamar
With the book finally in my hand I read Kouran's entry and saw his armor.

It causes an S5 hit on anyone that hits him, *immediately*

The way I read it, this goes outside of regular order of things and goes like this:

Opponent hits Kouran
Kouran's armor hits back with S5, rolls to wound and enemy rolls save
If still alive, enemy rolls to wound Kouran, then Kouran makes his save.

That's how I understand "immediately"

Which would increase his usefulness a lot, especially against rank and file troops (who would stand a chance of dying before delivering damage if the chose to attack him)

Re: Kouran

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:13 pm
by Canadianguy
It does seem like that is the RAW.
Unless in a challange most players will hit anything but him if they are basic troops.
Does appear interesting but I am still doubtful he will hit the table often.

Re: Kouran

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:15 pm
by Calisson
Probably not that good so as to prevent a wound from a hit that already occurred.
It would rather mean that the armour hits back with same Initiative as whoever hitted Kouran.
Both sides' hits/wounds/saves would be resolved "immediately" i.e. simultaneously.

Re: Kouran

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:22 pm
by Canadianguy
Likely the way but this is gw and not clarifying "immediatly" in game mechanics it becomes up to us to sort it out.

Re: Kouran

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:26 pm
by Fr0
Yeah, his armour caught my attention while reading the book too. He could be a potentially un-killable hero for ~150 pts. I'm not sure that this will prevent him from being wounded though, I think what it's saying is that the S5 hits are just resolved immediately. To me, the hits are still registered, and they still need to attempt to try to wound him.

If they are going to include this in the FAQ, I believe they will add "this attack hits at ~x~ I order".
/shrug

Re: Kouran

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:02 am
by Trax
A hit is a hit, I don't see way an effect, that doesn't explicitly cancel a hit should do so. Yeah, it would make him usable against certain types of troops, alas, I see no reason whatsoever for the connecting hits to be discarded. Might be a double kill in the end but nothing more.