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Trainee Warrior

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hey, this is my new list for friendly games...
i'd appreciate the one the other comment!

master...160
heavy armour
SDC
cold one
pendant of khaeleth
great weapon

sorceress...172
lvl 2
dark steed
sacrificial dagger

20 warriors...149
musican
standard

10 RXB...100

5 dark riders...117
RXB
musican

5 cold one knights...202
champion
standard
banner (+D3 for battle result)

15 black guards...248
champion
standard
armour piercing banner

reaper boltthrower...100

all together ~1250 pts


Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:16 pm
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Slave on the Altar

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Some of the more obvious stuff: Swap the GW for a Lance on the master, give the banner of murder to the CoK, and the ASF banner to the Black Guard (and I'm unsure of how your running them, but 7x2 is probably better than 5x3 due to their larger number of attacks and the newly added ASF). Shooting might pose a problem to your black guard (I've found that a unit of that size tends to get every gun on the field turned at it, so perhaps a harpy screen is in order?

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:57 pm
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I don't know if the sacrifical dagger would be good for the sorceress if she's on a steed. I'm guessing you'd put her with the dark riders, but imo, they're too valuable for being used as power dice fodder. You could also consider shields for your crossbowmen and spearmen if you haven't already.

I use the ASF banner with my executioner unit in 4,000pts (which i almost have collected but still assembling and painting) my Executioner unit has 15 of the big sword blokes, led by Tullaris and accompanied by a death hag with ROK, WB and ASF Banner.

So Strength 6 always strike first, killing blow,fear, a bucketload of attacks from the hag, and the possiblity of an assassin. I think they'll attract a lot of fire power.

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:06 pm
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Trainee Warrior

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Swap the GW for a Lance on the master

i was actually talking about the (magic) GW for 15 pts which is armour piercing... i just don't know the english term...
would you still recommend to change for lance?

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:53 pm
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Swap the GW for a Lance on the master

i was actually talking about the (magic) GW for 15 pts which is armour piercing... i just don't know the english term...
would you still recommend to change for lance?

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:57 pm
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i thought you couldnt use a GW while riding a mount

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I'd drop a couple of BG down to 12 to add 5 Harpies to act as a missile screen. Your xbow warriors could do with shields (better AS in CC) and if your sorc runs with the warriors the dagger is okay, but you should get a lordling to issue and accept challenges. If she runs with the DRs drop the dagger, you don't want to sac one of these guys.

The ASF Banner is indeed better on the BG. The Warbanner is a lot better for the CoKs, since it adds +1 CR every roung and not just once.

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:03 pm
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JRG wrote:
i thought you couldnt use a GW while riding a mount

Yes you can, you just gain +1S instead of +2S on foot

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:04 pm
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Yea, +1S and always strike last, even with armor piercing, is not a good trade for +2S, since that provides the same level of armor penetration but allows you to wound more easily. And a mundane lance is just 4pts (or you could go with the crimson death which gives you a permanent S6 for 10pts more than the AP GW).

Oh and you probably don't need the pendant... a mundane armor save of 1+ is probably plenty at this pts level, but if you worried about losing him stick to the pendant, swap to a mundane lance, and throw a null talisman on to him.

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:25 pm
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if your sorc runs with the warriors the dagger is okay

yeah, i actually planned to run them with the warriors...
but i didn't take into consideration the thing with challanges (thanks)
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The Warbanner is a lot better for the CoKs, since it adds +1 CR every roung and not just once

i actually thought that with the master and +D3 for combat resolution (if they attack) AND causing fear, the CoKs should be able to run over about everything, no?

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:49 pm
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okay... i changed a couple of things and thats how the list looks:

master...129
+heavy armour
+SDC
+cold one
+lance
+null talisman

sorceress...172
+lvl 2
+dark steed
+sacrificial dagger

20 warriors...155
+FC
+shields

10 RXBmen...110
+shields

5 dark riders...117
+musican
+RXB

5 harpies...55

5 CoK...192
+champion
+standard
+warbanner

12 black guard...219
+champion
+standard
+standard of hag graef

reaper boltthrower...100

=1249pts

i planned to field the sorceress with the 20 warriors and the master with the CoKs... better this way?

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Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:33 am
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okay... i changed a couple of things and thats how the list looks:

master...129
+heavy armour
+SDC
+cold one
+lance
+null talisman

sorceress...172
+lvl 2
+dark steed
+sacrificial dagger

20 warriors...155
+FC
+shields

10 RXBmen...110
+shields

5 dark riders...117
+musican
+RXB

5 harpies...55

5 CoK...192
+champion
+standard
+warbanner

12 black guard...219
+champion
+standard
+standard of hag graef

reaper boltthrower...100

=1249pts

i planned to field the sorceress with the 20 warriors and the master with the CoKs... better this way?

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Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:34 am
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