Revamped 2500 pt list
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Revamped 2500 pt list
Looking for a tournament worthy list. I purposely left out the Hydra, although he is painted and also is awesome for his points( may make a comeback for those reasons too). I want a in your face army list and as I haven't had much luck with Calvary this edition you will notice a lot of foot slogging going on, although moving 10" ain't too shabby.
New/relocated items
Supreme Sorceress- lvl 4, Shadow, lifetaker, Sacrificial Dagger, Pendant of Khaeleth (Most likely will reside in Spearmen unit)
Sorceress- lvl 2, Shadow, dispel scroll, ruby ring of ruin(in large xbow unit)
Death Hag- ABSB, Banner of Hag Graef( with Executioners)
Death Hag- Cauldron of Blood
Harpies- X5
Xbows- X10, musician
Xbows- X18, full command, Shields
Warriors- X40, full command, Banner of Discipline, Shields
Shades- X5, xhw
Shades- X5, xhw
Black guard- X20, full command, Banner of Murder, Ring of Hotek
Executioners- X31, full command, Banner of Eternal Flame
I went with 2 shadow mages for 2 Miasma spell and 2 shots at Smoke and Mirrors to help protect the lvl 4. Also I am all but assured of having Mindrazor and Pit of shades.
Lifetaker, ruby ring, shades and 2 units of xbows for the pesky chaff
What do ya think?
What tournament strong armies or units would this be weak against?
What would help vs those weaknesses?
Thanks
New/relocated items
Supreme Sorceress- lvl 4, Shadow, lifetaker, Sacrificial Dagger, Pendant of Khaeleth (Most likely will reside in Spearmen unit)
Sorceress- lvl 2, Shadow, dispel scroll, ruby ring of ruin(in large xbow unit)
Death Hag- ABSB, Banner of Hag Graef( with Executioners)
Death Hag- Cauldron of Blood
Harpies- X5
Xbows- X10, musician
Xbows- X18, full command, Shields
Warriors- X40, full command, Banner of Discipline, Shields
Shades- X5, xhw
Shades- X5, xhw
Black guard- X20, full command, Banner of Murder, Ring of Hotek
Executioners- X31, full command, Banner of Eternal Flame
I went with 2 shadow mages for 2 Miasma spell and 2 shots at Smoke and Mirrors to help protect the lvl 4. Also I am all but assured of having Mindrazor and Pit of shades.
Lifetaker, ruby ring, shades and 2 units of xbows for the pesky chaff
What do ya think?
What tournament strong armies or units would this be weak against?
What would help vs those weaknesses?
Thanks
Last edited by Executioner_of_khaine on Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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It's a bit low on fast troops for warmachine hunting. Try fitting in another unit of harpies, shades, dark riders or pegasus master in there.
Consider putting the standard of discipline in with the warriors (the SS as general then gets a leadership 10 12" bubble - very nice) and then putting the banner of eternal flame in with the execs (really awesome for cutting through trolls, chaos trolls and other regen toughies...).
Ring of darkness is not an optimum choice on the supreme sorceress. Your spearmen are unlikely to be arrow magnets (given that you have much more tempting targets on the board in the form of your execs and blackguard), and even if they are then that is a good thing (7 points per model is a lot cheaper to lose than 12 or 13 points per model). It won't help her much in close combat either (halving the weapon skill of a killy lord of doom isn't going to stop a T3, 3 wound model with no armour save from dying very quickly). Give her the pendant of khaine or the 4+ ward save talisman instead. Same goes for the ironcurse icon - you want your opponents to be focusing their warmachines on your warriors rather than your more expensive elite troops, so why make them a less tempting target?
Do you really need the ruby ring? With a level 4 and level 2 you are already going to be low on power dice, even with the dagger and power of darkness. Consider dropping it for something more useful.
Consider putting the standard of discipline in with the warriors (the SS as general then gets a leadership 10 12" bubble - very nice) and then putting the banner of eternal flame in with the execs (really awesome for cutting through trolls, chaos trolls and other regen toughies...).
Ring of darkness is not an optimum choice on the supreme sorceress. Your spearmen are unlikely to be arrow magnets (given that you have much more tempting targets on the board in the form of your execs and blackguard), and even if they are then that is a good thing (7 points per model is a lot cheaper to lose than 12 or 13 points per model). It won't help her much in close combat either (halving the weapon skill of a killy lord of doom isn't going to stop a T3, 3 wound model with no armour save from dying very quickly). Give her the pendant of khaine or the 4+ ward save talisman instead. Same goes for the ironcurse icon - you want your opponents to be focusing their warmachines on your warriors rather than your more expensive elite troops, so why make them a less tempting target?
Do you really need the ruby ring? With a level 4 and level 2 you are already going to be low on power dice, even with the dagger and power of darkness. Consider dropping it for something more useful.
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Thanks Red, your advice sounds very reasonable and will be put to use this weekend.
The ruby ring was more for backup than actual every turn use. I noticed i didnt have much in the way of ranged magical attack for ethereal chaff types. Lifetaker...then nothing. Actually I dont have much in the way of magical attacks at all
The ruby ring was more for backup than actual every turn use. I noticed i didnt have much in the way of ranged magical attack for ethereal chaff types. Lifetaker...then nothing. Actually I dont have much in the way of magical attacks at all
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http://www.ragingheroes.com/collections ... mand-group
http://www.ragingheroes.com/collections ... od-vestals
the site holds other verry nice models (great ones for harpies are the preying mantis or they have some realy nice manticores)
http://www.ragingheroes.com/collections ... od-vestals
the site holds other verry nice models (great ones for harpies are the preying mantis or they have some realy nice manticores)
8th edition Dark Elves w/d/l
2/4/3
still getting started, so don't mind that loses, they where sacrificed for the greater good xD
2/4/3
still getting started, so don't mind that loses, they where sacrificed for the greater good xD
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Thx guys for the pics and the link. Looking forward to getting some of those in my list finally.
I also edited my original post with some changes that were suggested. I am holding onto the ruby ring for now as I said earlier, I only have a few magical attacks from range.
Thanks again for all the input
I also edited my original post with some changes that were suggested. I am holding onto the ruby ring for now as I said earlier, I only have a few magical attacks from range.
Thanks again for all the input