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For a short time now there is a topic running in the WH 40K forum about the worst army ever. I think that is a good idea and I would like to hear your fantasy versions. One that came through my mind:

Dark Elves, Worst Army Evva?

High Sorceress, General, Magic Level 4, Ring of Hotek, Executioners Axe
355 pts wasted.

Noble, Great Weapon, Repeating Crossbow, Dark Sword, Divine Eye, Talisman of Protection, NO armour ;)
134 pts wasted.

Sorceress, Black Amulet
140 pts wasted.

Assasin, Add HW, Chill Blade, Hand of Khaine
179 pts wasted.

5 Dark Riders, Herald
104 pts wasted.

10 Warriors, Standard
80 pts wasted.

10 Warriors, Standard
80 pts wasted.

20 Harpies
260 pts wasted.

36 Executioners, Std, mus, Champion, Standard of Slaughter
461 pts wasted.

Cauldron of Blood
205 pts wasted.

What do you think? Can it be worse?
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Post by Holt »

You could give the Hag from the CoB Witchbrew. As the CoB is Unbreakable anyway this item will have no use and so theres a few points wasted.
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Post by Azure »

Just want to jump in and mention that i think if we are going to play this game, we should make the lists semi realistic... otherwise i win

Sorceress: lvl 1, blade of ruin

Core:5 dark riders, champ
5 dark riders, champ

Special:Fill slots with a giant unit of harpies

i win

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Thanks for the tips ;) , I hadn't thought about the witchbrew upgrade for the Hag. I like the Blade of Ruin indeed better on the sorc, but the 2 extra units of DR's would make the list too manouvrable IMHO. The harpies are already at max. (1 unit of max. 20 models), but nice you thought about it.
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The assassin can't have an add. HW and the Chill Blade... so it is illegal to boot
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Special:Fill slots with a giant unit of harpies


Arent harpies capped at 15? I may be wrong...


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1x high sorceress level 4 ring of hotek + power stones

Powerful but unable to cast without killing herself

2 x level 1 sorceress mounted on cold one with shadow magic (use default spell)

being mounted on stupid beasts, these ladies have no use whatsoever for their magical powers

Items -, black staff, power stone, soulstone

1 BSB naked except for a cold one and the dread banner

A full 75 points spent on a useless banner

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tough as tissue paper

3x15 & 1x7 shades with all upgrades and the mark of Slannesh

Huge, 230 point units that cant flee or fight their way out of a wet paper bag
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Draknir Reaverblade wrote:The assassin can't have an add. HW and the Chill Blade... so it is illegal to boot


He can take it, he just can't use it (the xhw). Sounds like it suits the parameters of the competition perfectly ;).
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Re: Worst Fantasy Army

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Lord of Swords wrote:Dark Elves, Worst Army Evva?

High Sorceress, General, Magic Level 4, Ring of Hotek, Executioners Axe
355 pts wasted.

Noble, Great Weapon, Repeating Crossbow, Dark Sword, Divine Eye, Talisman of Protection, NO armour ;)
134 pts wasted.

Sorceress, Black Amulet
140 pts wasted.

Assasin, Add HW, Chill Blade, Hand of Khaine
179 pts wasted.

5 Dark Riders, Herald
104 pts wasted.

10 Warriors, Standard
80 pts wasted.

10 Warriors, Standard
80 pts wasted.

20 Harpies
260 pts wasted.

36 Executioners, Std, mus, Champion, Standard of Slaughter
461 pts wasted.

Cauldron of Blood
205 pts wasted.

What do you think? Can it be worse?


How are the dark riders or warriors wasted points? Sure the herald is a waste and the std is gonna be pretty hard to get value out of, but the DR can still flee and both can redirect. Also, neither the sorceress or assassin are wasted points. Lvl2 and possibly the black amulet are wasted (though not vs a Khorne lord or the whaite dwarf). The assassin is not all wasted points, probably just about 50% overpriced. Even the High sorceress still gives 2 dispel dice so that's about 40-50pts not wasted plus the leadership bonus either her or the noble may give the army as general/unit leader. You could even make an argument that the cauldron is useful in an army like this with lots of low strength attacks, although the damn thing is overpriced in even the most optimised army.

You could probably still beat an empire army comprised of an engineer with no upgrades and 3 blocks of 129 halberdiers...
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Post by Lord tareq »

Okey yo uasked for it, most terrible army ever :)

Characters:


Beastmaster, Dark Sword

55 points wasted

Core:

10 warriors
10 warriors
10 warriors

210 points wasted

Special:

157 Executioners

1727 points wasted

Total: 1992 points wasted. :mrgreen:


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Grimgor ironhide, one unit of 50 naked wolf riders and 2 units of 40 naked wolf riders... If you haven't got something that can shoot grimgor or beat goblins wolf riders in cc, you army should probably be in this post...

Or a lvl3 master necro on a winged nightmare with the frostblade and the rest of your army's points spent on zombies...

Or, heck, there is only an upper points limit in warhammer so, beat this for a 2000pt army; empire master engineer and 3 units of 10 halberdiers...
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The first list of 20 harpies is illegal because you can only take 0-1 units of Harpies and the unit size min-max is 5-15. If the executioners are lined up single file on a really really long board imagine how funny that would be.
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@lord Tareq; ok.. you win.. But I like sulla's solution as well :D , only I'd give them just a naked orc boss as general; easier to kill ;)

What do you think of this?
Night Goblin Big Boss

10 Orc Boyz
10 Orc Boyz
10 Orc Boyz

180/2000 pts., the other player can't score a massacre ;)
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That's clever and a draw would be fairly easy to pull off (depending on the opponent) Funny but not exactly a great or fun game. I might do this to my friend sometime just as a joke before a real game.
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Post by Nagathi »

Nightblade183 wrote:That's clever and a draw would be fairly easy to pull off (depending on the opponent)
If he wipes the entire army, gets all four table quarters and the general, it's 680 VPs. If it's a Pitched Battle. Most tournaments use scenarios instead, to avoid these kinds of odd armies.

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Post by Handmaiden »

imagine if someone played this army ha.


Malekith The Witch King - no extra upgrades

2 regiments of 10 RxB warriors, 4 models wide each , not on a hill

and the rest - 1 huge regiment of spearmen deployed in impassible terrain of course.

2000 pts total

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Handmaiden, Please be careful. I'm not sure how you managed to go 2 months back but D.net isnt to happy with threadomancy.

Also, since you have a dragon that isnt the worst..

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It is from a fluff perspective.

I dont know what threadomancy is but my point is that you take the king of the dark elves and back him up with rubbish. That imo is the worst kind of dark elf army.

oh i looked it up and its hardly threadomancy seeing as i found it on page 1 and theres only 1 page to the topic . Why dont you watch wat you accuse ppl of.
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Azure didn't mean any harm from his comment handmaiden so no need for the aggressive tone. It doesn't matter if it is still on page 1, if no one has replied for longer then 2 months then you can assume the topic has completely rotted.


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The first post says it was done on Dec 24th

the lastest post days Feb 5th.

That is not two months, and whats funny is that if I had created a completely new topic covering the same thing on the same page as this one, then people would be complaining that i should have found and posted in this topic as is described in the "search rules of ettiquete".
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Even a month is enough to see that it is well and truly dead. Now let's leave it at that, some people don't want to get banned.
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I didnt mean to offend you in any way, just trying to inform you of a rule that you may or may not have known about. The common way to talk about subjects that have passed their date (or over ripened I like to think of it as) is to create a relatively similar thread and then link it to this one and just have people post on the new thread. At least thats what it says to do in the Forum Rules.

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Post by Thanee »

About 'Threadomancy':

Forum Rules wrote:Reviving topics, a.k.a. Necromancy

A new user may come across an old topic (say, a few months old) and find that it's an interesting one. There is, of course, the urge to speak your mind in that thread. Please do not: it's annoying for other regulars to suddenly come across a topic of discussion that has long since been discussed to death. This does seem to conflict with the searching rule of etiquette, but that's not the case. If it's an old topic and you have more to add, simply create a new post, provide a link to the old one (if you think it's necessary), and make your statement. Make sure that you are saying something new, though! We're internet users, we get bored easily.


Anyways, leaving the topic here open now... it's not that old, after all. ;)

Next time, please check the date before replying and just open a new thread if in doubt. Thanks!

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Post by Scareypete »

LOL>...

I wish I was near my PC on the week after Christmas this Topic would have been fun.

Only in the Internet is a Month a Long Time... When you are watching your life slip away form you edging one day closer to death... 30 days is but afleeting moment with little to show for it aside from petty disputes on the internet.

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Worst Army Ever...

Night Goblin General

3 Blocks of 20 Night Goblins without commands and no fanatics.

It's Slow... and Cowardly and weak.
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