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Re: Next ET books

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:47 pm
by CitizenKhaine
I tried not to be bitter and twisted about not getting any new DE models in ET, but giving them to Skaven! that is worse than favouring dwarves!, well a bit anyway.
On the plus side, one of the Druchii threads showed some awesome alternative Morathi DP models, so still in my happy place 8)

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:48 pm
by Daeron
I can totally see a Daemon of Slaneesh in that Vermin Lord. Maybe with a different face.

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:05 pm
by T.D.
^^There is certainly a lot of mileage in that Verminlord kit :shock:

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:40 am
by Gidean
flatworldsedge wrote:At once exciting and depressing to see the awesome Verminlord kit. Why do they not want Elven money?! Oh well!


To be fair...almost all of the elves got significant model upgrades recently when their books came out with Dark Elves fairing the best. Half the skaven line is in finecast (including the Verminlord).

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:58 am
by Blackfrost
Apparently the Rat Ogres will now have armor. Moulder players rejoice

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:17 pm
by Amboadine
Oh and for a Christmas treat the WD rules for their Horned monkey rat daemon.

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 7:12 pm
by Rork
This Vermin Lord seems suspiciously like the time they gave Chaos Warriors the knights on juggernauts. Within a matter of months, Warriors had a new book...So it seems reasonable that we'll see the Skaven fully redone within 6 months at the latest.

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:17 pm
by flatworldsedge
Ace work with the stats - and I quite like the thing. It seems fair, and nicely themed. Enough of a punch to make an impact and get Skaven players excited without everyone else kicking off and moaning about it.

Gidean wrote: To be fair...almost all of the elves got significant model upgrades recently when their books came out with Dark Elves fairing the best. Half the skaven line is in finecast (including the Verminlord).


Yep - that is fair. We are broadly spoilt, and, of course, have access to a tonne of awesome kits from other Elves, Dark Eldar, etc. Cool to see quality stuff coming out for any army too. Sorry I had a mini moan!

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:33 am
by Diobarach
Interesting that his spell generation is geared to the old magic style not ET:K magic.

Infantry are going to love Skreetch Verminking.

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:06 pm
by Rork
r530 wrote:Interesting that his spell generation is geared to the old magic style not ET:K magic.


Well, most of the magic rules are still optional or conditional on taking an ET:K army. The only rule the ET books have changed for the game is the 50% Lord allowance (I think).

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:35 pm
by Calisson
Rork wrote:
r530 wrote:Interesting that his spell generation is geared to the old magic style not ET:K magic.


Well, most of the magic rules are still optional or conditional on taking an ET:K army. The only rule the ET books have changed for the game is the 50% Lord allowance (I think).
Official Update Version 1.9 wrote:AMENDMENTS
Page 134 – Lords
Replace both paragraphs with: “You can spend up to 50% of
your points on Lords. Lords are the most powerful characters
in your army, individuals possessed of fearsome martial or
magical might.”

Page 134 – Heroes
Replace both paragraphs with: “You can spend up to 50%
of your points on Heroes. Heroes are lesser characters, not
as intrinsically deadly as Lords, but still worth a score of
ordinary warriors.”

Page 135 – Army Selection Summary Table
Replace “Lords – Up to 25%” with “Lords – Up to 50%”
Replace “Heroes – Up to 25%” with “Heroes – Up to 50%”

Page 162 – Spell Generation
At the end of the second paragraph, add:
“The Lore of Undeath is available to any Wizard.”
(see Warhammer Battle Magic: Lore of Undeath or
Warhammer: Nagash, available in digital format at
http://www.games-workshop.com)

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:00 pm
by Rork
Yeah, I had a feeling undeath was the other one. Right on the "most" part ;).

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:30 pm
by Gidean
r530 wrote:Interesting that his spell generation is geared to the old magic style not ET:K magic.

Infantry are going to love Skreetch Verminking.


Good catch. Since they talk about 'generating' spells it might mean this Khaine madness will not be in 9th.

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:12 am
by Searinox Nagharha
Well in fairness you are only "forced" to use End Times Magic if;
The Scenario states it, atleast 1 player uses an Elf Legion, or uses a unit from the book. or you simply want to use it.
So still alot of room to not use it ;P

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:52 pm
by Amboadine
Thought I would add in another couple of Verminlord builds.

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:14 pm
by Gidean
My grandma...what a long tail you have. Seriously, I kind of hate GW for making all the new models with tall thin pointy parts that catch my shirt every time I lean over to move some units. :| Nothing says "Oh Joy" like breaking a nicely painted model the first time you play with it.

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:24 pm
by Haagrum
Gidean wrote:My grandma...what a long tail you have. Seriously, I kind of hate GW for making all the new models with tall thin pointy parts that catch my shirt every time I lean over to move some units. :| Nothing says "Oh Joy" like breaking a nicely painted model the first time you play with it.


Image

Problem solved! :mrgreen:

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:36 pm
by Gidean
Haagrum wrote:
Gidean wrote:My grandma...what a long tail you have. Seriously, I kind of hate GW for making all the new models with tall thin pointy parts that catch my shirt every time I lean over to move some units. :| Nothing says "Oh Joy" like breaking a nicely painted model the first time you play with it.


Image

Problem solved! :mrgreen:



ROFLMAO! !lol! That would help with all the dice I have to pick off the floor too!

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:39 pm
by T.D.
Looks like we have a Ninja one :shock:

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and a Boneripper inspired one:

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Re: Next ET books

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:56 pm
by Haagrum
I have a sinking feeling that the entire Council of Thirteen will be getting a guernsey in the End Times, as Vermin Lords of one stripe or another. While the old Skaven player in me is quietly squeeful, I enjoyed them being an ominous council of evilness.

The ones we currently know about are Seer-type (whomever the new Seerlord is), Ninja-type (Clan Eshin) and Ogre-type (Clan Moulder). I'd bet that a Pestilence-style one is likely to appear as well. Fingers crossed there's no technology-based ones... that would be terrifying.

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:00 am
by Noble korhedron
Haagrum wrote:I have a sinking feeling that the entire Council of Thirteen will be getting a guernsey in the End Times, as Vermin Lords of one stripe or another. While the old Skaven player in me is quietly squeeful, I enjoyed them being an ominous council of evilness.

The ones we currently know about are Seer-type (whomever the new Seerlord is), Ninja-type (Clan Eshin) and Ogre-type (Clan Moulder). I'd bet that a Pestilence-style one is likely to appear as well. Fingers crossed there's no technology-based ones... that would be terrifying.
Well I don't k now how canon Black Library novels are, but when Thanquoul contacted the council in the Gotrek and Felix novels, they mostly seemed like regular-size Skaven to me....

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:09 am
by Amboadine
There is meant to be 5 variants so seems we are only waiting for one more to appear.

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:53 am
by T.D.
Haagrum wrote: I'd bet that a Pestilence-style one is likely to appear as well.


Pestilence one is in Amboadine's post above -- the lower of the two pics, with the skull face.

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:26 am
by Haagrum
Thanks for the heads-up, T.D. Hopefully it means no magitek Vermin Lords (which should increase Ikit Claw's chances of surviving the Skaven End Times book).

Noble korhedron wrote:Well I don't k now how canon Black Library novels are, but when Thanquoul contacted the council in the Gotrek and Felix novels, they mostly seemed like regular-size Skaven to me....


That may be, but the End Times have a penchant for making changes.

I mean, Malekith and the Everqueen got hitched, Tyrion turned evil, and just look at what happened to Ulthuan!

(Too soon? :mrgreen: )

Re: Next ET books

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:19 pm
by Rork
Haagrum wrote:Thanks for the heads-up, T.D. Hopefully it means no magitek Vermin Lords (which should increase Ikit Claw's chances of surviving the Skaven End Times book).



Given the age of Ikit's model, I don't rate his chances...