[BLOG] Sarcon's Druchii! Updated May 8: Pic Heavy Army Shot
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Author:  Rebmonk [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:36 pm ]
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looking good. As to the question I meant how you made the tray that all 10 crossbowmen are in.

Author:  Sarcon [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:25 pm ]
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@ Lord Saradain - Yes, they all have red eyes. Maybe it's beauce my camera got a red-eye removal built in (Yes, I'm serious!)? =XI'll make an army so far picture in a minute, sounds like a good idea to me!

My master on steed will be painted in the following two weeks. I need to have him done along the rest of my 500 pts army before november 8th. If I have time left I may do a quick display base (also built easymode!), or help my friend paint 60 goblins in 2 weeks :lol: .

And I appreciate you like the harpies. Thanks for the reply!

@ Rebmonk - The movement tray is made from sprue edges glued on 1mm thick plastic card. I put some dimension in the tray here and there by making some tiny hills with clay, then I simply sanded it, few pieces of cork here and there, patches of gravel to break up the sandy feel, spraypaint it black, and get drybrushing! I still have to make a tray for my knights, so I could post a WiP of that, if I remember!

Thanks for all C&C so far. You've been great motivators to keep me painting! tomorrow I'm going to make a start on my cold one knights (i.e first layer, wash).

Author:  Western elf [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:12 pm ]
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Nice eagles!

I'm sure you will have answered this already, but where are they from?

Author:  Notts [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:13 pm ]
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I like the use of chariot horses for DR.
It is a real shame GW discontinued their bitz service, man that was convenient.

Author:  Sarcon [ Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:53 pm ]
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@ Western Elf - they're Warmaster High Elf Great Eagles, you can find them under the specialist games section on the GW website.

@ Notts - Yea, I sure do miss the bits service too. It really made things a lot cheaper and handier. Stopping the bit service almost completely killed the conversional options for people on low budgets (i.e students, etc). Now that I want to build a pegasus, I need leathery wings, so now I need to buy the morathi blister just for the pegasus wings...

Author:  Notts [ Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:14 pm ]
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And I want a War altar for my Empire, but hate the actual model, and can't order bits. I also only wanted specific bits for my DR... hey ho.

Did i see in another thread that you used green stuff on the wings?

Author:  Sarcon [ Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:28 pm ]
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Notts - Yes, that's right, it requires some minor greenstuffing. The model comes stock with pewter pins molded onto them, but I clipped those off and replaced them with pieces of paperclip. That's way more solid. Some playing with the wings angle, then some quick greenstuffing to fill the gabs, and you're done!

EDIT: Here's a WIP shot of the harpy next to a crossbow warrior (for size comparison)

And a small update now aswel! No new models though, I did take some pics of models I built some time ago that have not been seen on this thread yet. So, here's the army so far!

Blurry shots of the army so far

And a few closeups!
I really like how the dark riders turned out in this picture. It really shows how good fast painting from tabletop distance can look IMO.

Cold one knights and master on dark steed, with masticore in the background.

Close up on the Master on Manticore, aka Masticore.

Close up on the crossbow guys + cold one chariot.

And again, C&C is appreciated. I really enjoyed reading all your replies so far. Thanks a lot for that!

Author:  Angel of algebra [ Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:30 pm ]
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Looking good. ;) I was going to request a group picture once you had more painted anyway.

I like the use of the chariot lion head on the manticore. And I've always wanted to put that black guard model on a manticore.

As for the heads looking low down on the Knights, I think it works well. Something about having the neck armour come up high looks cool to me.

Keep going. :)

Author:  Lordsaradain [ Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:33 pm ]
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The "masticore" and chariot conversions look great. Both the manticore and rider look quite abit cooler than the originals.

Author:  Seralkith [ Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:50 pm ]
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I like the harpy eagles. I was a little skeptical at only seeing one, but the flock has changed my mind. Nice work on the bases, but I's encourage you to add just one highlight to the black armour at the edge. I know you want to do a quick job, but maybe just even a gloss finish to it would work.... It's just your bases are so nice and well I have faith in your painting skills as your work has so far turned out very nice.

The Manticore is lookin sweet too eh!

Author:  Western elf [ Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:55 pm ]
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Warmaster eagles? I will have to look into that - they look great.

Nice army all round.

Author:  Sarcon [ Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:49 am ]
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@ LordSaradain - Cheers, I've posted him a month or two earlier, but with real crappy pics. I'm glad you like them!

@ Seralkith - I know the black armor is a bit flat, but it would take like another 5 to 10 minutes/model or so to highlight it. I really want to keep this army painted without too much fuzz, because I never finished an army, just because I was trying to make every model look really good. I simpled my painting on my khorne CSMs - wasn't enough, so now a wash army (I've been waiting 1.5 years for the new DE book, so I really wanted to do this army). Thanks for the great compliment on the basing and painting, it's much appreciated.

@ Western elf - Yes, they are High Elf Great Eagles, from the Warmaster specialist games range from Games Workshop. Here's a link to the online store:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... GameStyle=

Author:  Darkpanda [ Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:52 am ]
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It's shaping up really fine!
I particularly like the masticore, great looking variation with the lion head there.
Not so sold on the harpies but to each his own.. if they were to have woman heads then perhaps.. :D

/thanks, panda

Author:  Notts [ Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:17 pm ]
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you've lost steam Sarcon!

Today I bought some cork, cheap clay and sand and gravel. I'm going to imitate your bases, using snow instead of grass.
which fits into the fluff of my renegade DE- hiding in the mountains.

Author:  Arthos [ Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:04 pm ]
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Ur dark riders look amazing, neat painting style, lovin ur army :D :D

Author:  Sarcon [ Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:07 pm ]
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@ Dark Panda - Harpies, harpies, harpies, most discussed part about my army. And that for a mere 55 points, Definetly a keeper :lol:

@ Notts, yes I know I have been lacking some updates lately. I will get some more painting done tonight + do a basing turtourial. I've been working 40+ hours/week lately, so I didnt have a lot of time. I did play a few games, but I lack general gaming experience (i.e. forgetting psychology, doing compulsory movement and forgetting to declare charges). I scored a major victory and a draw which wasnt that bad, if I may say so myself. So tonight, Paint time!

@ Arthos - Thanks for the compliment. I'll to post an update ASAP!

Author:  Notts [ Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:34 pm ]
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life can definitely get in the way of painting!
good job on the battles. I am going to make a list of things to do in battles as I ALWAYS forget stuff. I normally dont really take mages, and last battle (as Empire) I did, forgot to cast with him twice.
I'm looking forward to more updates, specially the masticore.

Author:  Western elf [ Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:26 am ]
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Is it called a 'masticore' after the magic the gathering card?

http://sales.starcitygames.com/cardscan ... ticore.jpg

Author:  Dark_and_pointy [ Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:45 am ]
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Could you please tell me were those eagles came from? are they the old woodelve hawk rider models? thanx


Author:  Sarcon [ Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:30 pm ]
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@ Western Elf - No, I don't play Magic, but I thought it was a funny combination of words ^^.

@ Dark_and_pointy - Read my post 7 posts up :lol:

UPDATE! YES! A few WIP shots!

To show you guys how easy it is to use washes, I decided to take a few WIP shots of my CoKs. This is what they look like before the wash:

This is a shot to show how much wash I use (yes, I simply soak them :P )

And this is a shot of what they look like when the wash has dried up (before highlighting a single time)

Easy isn't it? :)

Author:  Sarcon [ Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:00 pm ]
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Easy realistic cork bases - A basing turtourial.

In this article I will explain how I make my cork bases. I really like to put more character into my models by putting them on eye-catching bases. With some cork and modelling clay this is easily achieved. This is a list of materials you will need:

    -A cork plate (mine is about 12mm thick, should be half an inch)
    -Modeling clay that dries up hard - colour doesn't really matter.
    -A sharp knife
    -PVA Glue
    -Super Glue
    -A pinning device + paperclips (for pinning your model onto the cork)
    -Modeling sand/fine slate
    -Sculpting tool
    -And last, but not least, you need a base!

Step 1: Grab yourself a base and some cork!


Step 2: Break of a piece of cork, and break it into tiny pieces, you can cut some in half to get an angle in the rocks, or just to have a less high rock. Here's a picture that shows the thickness of the cork I use:

And here's a shot that shows how I cut a piece of cork to an angle to glue it on a base.


Step 3: After a bit of shufling around with the pieces of cork, I am happy with the result, and decided to glue the pieces on using Super Glue.


Step 4: Time to bulk the bases up! I use a cheap clay that I bought at a toy store (€1,99 for 500 grams, enough to base atleast 2 armies with!) Here's a picture of the clay that I use:

So, to start of with bulking, get a piece of clay, and get some PVA glue on the base. If you do not use clay (I didn't at first either), you have a chance that the clay part of your base may fall of if you drop the model. I never had that problem again since I use PVA for my bases. Here's a shot of a base covered in PVA glue with a piece of clay next to it:

Next, you break of a tiny piece of clay, roll it into a sausage form, and push it into place:

Then, grab your sculpting tool, and even it out nicely. This doesnt have to be very neat.

Here's the overview of the 5 bases I did:


Step 5: Time to glue on the sand! Cover the clay in PVA glue, and glue on some modelling sand. It doesnt matter if some of the PVA hits the cork, it only makes it seem more natural. The only important part is that you keep your base edges clean!

Picture of a base covered in PVA:

Picture of the same base with the sand on:

And a overview of all 5 bases:

This is basicly how I do my bases. You can add some other things, like glue on a patch of fine slate here and there. When the PVA has dried up you can spraypaint them black along with the models.

Whoa, I was done faster than I thought with this article :lol:. I hope you guys have some use of this turtourial. Be sure to check out my army blog HERE.

Thanks for reading,

Author:  Lord_azoth [ Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:47 pm ]
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quick and esay one..thanks mate!!...

Author:  Notts [ Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:48 pm ]
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thanks Sarcon. I can't find my superglue, and I dont have a pinning device, but i'm going to try it anyway.

Author:  Sarcon [ Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:04 pm ]
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@ Lord Azoth - I tried to make it as dummy-proof as possible :P

@ Notts, it could be hard to prevent your models from breaking off, but pinning is not that important if you're going to base plastic infantry. You do need some superglue though.

There are a few ways to base models on cork bases: On the cork, or next to a piece of cork. I would suggest you do the second thing, so you can just glue your plastic model onto the plastic base with polystreen cement, so you're sure it wont come of, then, glue on some patches of cork, bulk it up, and sand it. Easiest thing there is, eh? ;)

Author:  Notts [ Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:09 pm ]
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yes, although I have a cool idea of my (plastic) shades leaning with one foot on a rock to steady the RXB...
not even sure how i would get the foot higher though, if you imagine what I mean.

cant you just pva the cork onto the base?

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