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Thank you!

Oh, and Rowena, I hope you don't mind if I steal your idea of using mandrakes as wood elves? They look great, though mine are going to be way watchers...

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Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:29 pm
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Heartsbane wrote:
Thank you!

Oh, and Rowena, I hope you don't mind if I steal your idea of using mandrakes as wood elves? They look great, though mine are going to be way watchers...


Of course, they say inspiration is the greatest compliment. :) I look forward to seeing your version, will you post them here?

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Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:43 pm
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Sure, why not? :D

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SEA DRAGON SOOOO COOOOOL

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Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:35 am
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Lovely, lovely army, well done! Really like the Shade unit, that's simply excellent. Might consider stealing that idea :) Where are the pennants on the Knights from?


Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:44 am
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Thankyou Jvh792 and Setomidor for your kind words. Others admiring my painting is a wonderful spur to paint more! :)

The penants on the knights are from the wood elf glade rider sprue. I had plenty spare after making all those dark riders!

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Can't believe I have not seen this thread yet! Amazing.

I love the harpies - I wish I had done mine like that now - great colour scheme and conversion.

And the shades diorama is wicked!!!!

How about an army wide shot for us to look at them all together.

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Such awesome work brings tears to my eyes. I have so far to go still...


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Love the harpies. I was planning on converting some of my own eventually. Seeing yours has made me really want to up my game! I'd like to do something as dynamic and creepy in the way it combines several natural creatures like yours. The monkey feet are especially great. I'll have to spend a lot of time thinking of how I could represent them

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Use that underwater one as a Kharibdyss!!!!!

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This is a really awesome army. Well done! Great conversions and I especially like your bases!


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Superb work, are you contemplating any of the new models? Would love to see your conversions of those.. I

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:oops: Such kind words, my humble thanks.

@ Manit0u: keep pushing yourself. I've been painting for about 20 years now, which helps, but much of that time was spent without really stretching my painting skills; it's only when I've had periods where I've tried to do new things that I've got better, and those new things rarely work first time.

@ Cult of Khaine: glad you like it! buying a garden of Morr just for the gateway for the shades was a bit of an induldence, (and my most expensive movement tray ever by a long margin) but I'm really happy with how it turned out :)

@jvh792: she was originally meant to be used as a hydra, but yes, the K-beast is a better fit for the model (handy as I want to try it out whereas the new hydra doesn't make me want to put it in my list).

@ stuaker: go for it, and I'd be interested in seeing pics when they're done! :)

@Karond: I'm thinking of getting my hands on some warlocks (if you look closely there are a couple of nods towards Slaneesh, most obviously the BSB's standard top, so they fit thematically), and I fancy painting up a scourgerunner too, so maybe they'll be some of the new kits eventually...

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Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:54 am
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I am loving this. The unit filler is incredibly dynamic and your beasts are nicely magically scary.
I am especially intrigued by your way of painting the Harpy/Dragon wings. First of the blue/black/tan scheme is wonderful. but what I have always learned is to do the leathery fold-lines on wings horizontally from the 'fingers', why do the vertical lines work so well on these models? I'd love to recreate it for my Manticore.(and later on my future dragons and pegassi*dreams*)


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If memory serves, the highlighting on the dragon was largely done with stormvermin fur and skavenblight dinge. As to why I did it that way, it was partly personal preference and partly time.

Doing straight lines with the fingers to guide is simply faster for me than sequential arches spanning from one finger to the next. For highlighting, just do a lighter colour for the ones towards the centre of each membrane on the top and the ones nearer the fingers on the bottom.

Secondly, the normal way of doing it might be most accurate (as a quick google image serch for "bat wings" confirms), but to my mind it always makes the wings look a bit saggy. Whilst that's fine for a terrorgheist, I wanted my dragon's wings to look like they were pumping mightily and holding up most of the beast's weight. After I'd used it on the dragon and liked how it turned out, I copied it across to the harpies.

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Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:39 pm
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Thanks a bunch!:)
I've got stormvermin fur mixed in allot of my De scheme, so that'll work nicely.
It indeed seems like a faster way. if it turns out to be looking better, its all the more preferable.

I'll give it a shot and try to layer in some veins.
Thanks again!


Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:32 pm
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I love this Army, particularly the Sea Dragon. I might steal that deep water idea for my Kraken when I put it together. How did you do the water effect? I know there are a bunch of different kinds of Water Effects to buy, but I'm not sure what the differences are. Also, how did you get it so deep? I've seen tutorials for really shallow (just put some tape around the edge of the base and fill it up), but for something that deep I'm not sure. Did you cut out a cereal box and make a box around the base or something?

Anyway, looks amazing :)

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Hey Datalink7, glad you like it :) And give the water a try for your kraken, it's fun to try things that are a bit different.

In terms of applying the water, here are a few tips:
* Get two part resin based water effects, which may also be marketed as clear casting resin (As an example, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CASTING-RESIN-KIT-1KG-WATER-CLEAR-IDEAL-FOR-MODEL-MAKING-SCENERY-CRAFTS-/151018298646?pt=UK_Antiques_Woodenware_RL&hash=item2329645d16#ht_2961wt_758, though I've never bought from that supplier so am not specifically recomending them). Acrylic stuff is easy to spot as it only comes in one pot rather than two, and is only good for small puddles. This is because acrylics require air to dry so aren't suitable for casting large volumes from, and also because as acrylic cures it looses water, leading to it shrinking.

* Make a box, as you surmised, but I used plasticard held together with a hot glue gun, as you've about 800g of resin to hold in place so you want it to be secure! Test it with water before you apply the resin, to be sure it doesn't leak, then let it dry thoroughly before adding resin.

* Make the bottom of the box in such a way that the model stands flat. Otherwise you'll end up with sloped water.

* Add mould release of some sort to the inside of the box! I can't stress this enough, the resin will bond quite firmly to the box without it. I didn't do this, and had to take a hammer and chisel to liberate my sea dragon from the casting box, risking destroying everything!

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Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:19 am
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Heartsbane wrote:
Hey Datalink7, glad you like it :) And give the water a try for your kraken, it's fun to try things that are a bit different.

In terms of applying the water, here are a few tips:
* Get two part resin based water effects, which may also be marketed as clear casting resin (As an example, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CASTING-RESIN-KIT-1KG-WATER-CLEAR-IDEAL-FOR-MODEL-MAKING-SCENERY-CRAFTS-/151018298646?pt=UK_Antiques_Woodenware_RL&hash=item2329645d16#ht_2961wt_758, though I've never bought from that supplier so am not specifically recomending them). Acrylic stuff is easy to spot as it only comes in one pot rather than two, and is only good for small puddles. This is because acrylics require air to dry so aren't suitable for casting large volumes from, and also because as acrylic cures it looses water, leading to it shrinking.

* Make a box, as you surmised, but I used plasticard held together with a hot glue gun, as you've about 800g of resin to hold in place so you want it to be secure! Test it with water before you apply the resin, to be sure it doesn't leak, then let it dry thoroughly before adding resin.

* Make the bottom of the box in such a way that the model stands flat. Otherwise you'll end up with sloped water.

* Add mould release of some sort to the inside of the box! I can't stress this enough, the resin will bond quite firmly to the box without it. I didn't do this, and had to take a hammer and chisel to liberate my sea dragon from the casting box, risking destroying everything!


Really appreciate the tutorial. I have two of these:

http://armorcast.com/store/popup_image.php?pID=664

Inbound right now to use as my Kharibdyss/Kraken, and I want to try at least one with the deep water effect that you've done. Obviously going to look different than yours with the different model but I think it will still look cool.

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Hope it helps, and if you've any other questions about how to do it feel free to ask, either in this thread or by pm.

Those kraken look great, pics when you're done please! Only thought looking at them is that I don't think it'd be possible to have part of the model poking out of the side of the water (which would look really odd anyway), so to fit those tentacles in I'd be minded to angle it backwards, so the tentacles are rising up out of the water. Mmmm, tentacles. :)

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Heartsbane wrote:
Hope it helps, and if you've any other questions about how to do it feel free to ask, either in this thread or by pm.

Those kraken look great, pics when you're done please! Only thought looking at them is that I don't think it'd be possible to have part of the model poking out of the side of the water (which would look really odd anyway), so to fit those tentacles in I'd be minded to angle it backwards, so the tentacles are rising up out of the water. Mmmm, tentacles. :)


Ok sounds good.

I am a bit worried about the tentacles. Here is one that someone painted:

http://www.cultofkhaine.com/2013/01/release-kraken.html

They do spread out a bit to the side. I'm going to have to see if I can bend them in. Otherwise I'm going to have to have it mostly out of the water. If that's the case, I'm going to have to mold a bunch of waves off the side of it to simulate it "bursting" forth. Any idea how to do those?

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Hey, loving the sea dragon. What parts are used in it? I am guessing the trygon tail and back with greenstuffed over the nid vents? Black dragon head, no idea where the arms are from. Looks really good, I'm having trouble building my k beast and this might help for me to finish it off. Either that or I give up on him and just don't field them lol.


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Hey Kunimitsu, glad you like her! :)

Spot on with the tyranid beastie for the body and tail, and yes, the vents were trimmed off and greenstuffed over to hide the scar. Also a bit of greenstuff was needed to replace a section of tail as I needed to curve it round more sharply in order to prevent it overhanging the edge of a chariot base (and that *really* wouldn't have worked with the water...)

Other parts were the black dragon head, and the tip of the tail is also from the black dragon kit. The legs are from the same tyranid kit, though the feet are created from greenstuff with small claws from the kit added to make, erm, claws. Sculpting these was really easy, it was pretty much just rolling out 4 saussages of greenstuff, blend them together a little near the ankle, and make a ridge to represent knuckles. Once cured, trim to length and glue on the claws and the job was a good 'un.

The riders have saddles from cold one knights (left over after making chariots), and otherwise are mostly from the dark eldar wyches sprue made by using two raised legs (greenstuffed crotch to make them fit). The trident came from the wood elf glade riders with the spear tip replaced with spiked from the old dark elf spearmen kit.

Good luck with your k-beast, I hope this helps and please do post picks once you've got him finished. :)

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And now for something completely different. I know they're a different sort of elves, but thought you might like to see them anyway!

My highborn, leading a unit of glade riders, with none of those wussy herbivores for steeds!
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Front rank only:
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And the highborn alone:
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Winter dryads:
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Ice elementals (count as tree kin)
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Wardancers (old school!):
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Waywatchers (inspired by Rowena's conversions)
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Obligatory eagle:
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The whole force:
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Not painted to the same standard as my druchii, but I did most of the waywatchers and wardancers, and the eagle, noble, drayads and elementals in a single day. It was a long day, with more sugar and caffeine than was healthy, but they don't look too bad considering...

Nice bases (from base x of war) and starting from a brown spray with a black ink wash certainly helped with painting that quickly! :)

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