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I was reading book Deamon Curse ( about Malus Darkblade ) and there were ,,memaids". THey were called mere-witches, they have indigo hairs ( i don know what is indigo ) and druchii faces. In the same book is empty city, where are paintings of cities beneath water and ,,sea people". I think these mermaids are very interesting but i dont know anything more. Can you tell me waht do you KNOW and THINK about them.


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Perhaps I just don't remember that particular spot in the book, but I don't remember hearing about mere-witches. Actually, they sort of ring a bell, but I don't remember anything about them.

And to answer part of your question... Indigo is a type of color, between blue and purple. More towards the blue side, like Midnight Blue or whatever the really dark blue is in GW colors.


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Mermaids deserve to be categorised alongside fishmen. That being said, there are some sea-adept Beastmen kicking around in the WH world, yes.

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I'm sure there are some siren type things around the place, I think the beastman issue is a tricky one - on one hand a lot of wierd creatures could be classed as beastmen but then there is probably quite a few that are more akin to Skaven (a more stable race rather than mostly being mutants).

It depends how you consider harpies I would say, is it actually a race entirely female (who presumably need males from other species - something I can certainly see fitting with sirens and the whole luring sailors to their death thing) or do they just look that way on the surface?

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The 7th edition BRB counts Skaven in the same general group as Beastmen. It kind of hurts, but there you go.

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They are at the beginning when is Malus returning to Naggaroth from his slaving raide. Very interisting question is how has the race begun. They have fish tail but the another part is druchii like and elves are immune to mutation so they cannot be kind of beastmen. Actually exactly same is it about harpies.


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On the contrary, Sezax, the only race immune to mutations are the Halflings.
Elves are no more resistant to them than humans. Trust me, I know; My elf sprouted wings in the last roleplay I gamed.

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and the druchii anointed would be a somewhat mutated elve, he sprouted mussles ( not clams)

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Ashnari: Elves are near-immune to mutation and disease, actually. IIRC, the 7th edition BRB background section (as amusing as it is... the Dwarfs now store "breeches of faith" in the Dammaz Kron... undergarments) says it quite clearly, as does the SoC book in the small section on the Druchii Anointed.

Halflings and Ogres are supposed to be highly resistant as well, but they are flawed creations - the Ogres are dumb and brutish, for example. I forget what the problem with the Halflings is.

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I forget what the problem with the Halflings is.


Um, extremely tiny? :?

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I forget what the problem with the Halflings is.


Um, extremely tiny? :?


Um, I think he was being sarcastic. But then who knows?

From memory, as Eldacar said Elves are extremely hard to mutate.

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I think it might just be happenstance that the mermaids and harpies look druichii. If anything, it wouldn't be mutation, it would be dark magic. I bet that could get you some crazy stuff.

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No, the 7th edition BRB clearly said that the Halflings were something of a flawed creation. I just can't remember what the flaw was.

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Ok, I thought you were just mocking them about their stature.
It's most likely some form of growth defect that also messes with their stomachs that make them eat alot...

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Okay, but my point remains. Elves aren't immune to mutations. They may be resistant, but they're not immune.

Halflings and Ogres were, IIRC, made to battle Chaos.
Unfortunately, Halflings were kind of scrawny with a disproportional appetite and no talent for magic whatsoever. Ogres were kind of big and dumb, also with a disproportional appetite(turning them from a bit charming to downright frightening). And vicious. Both races have a certain cruel streak to them.

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I like the idea of Mermaids or Sirens, and I'd expect they'd be rather like harpies. Very animalistic, with some sort of cunning (I assume Harpies have that, and some intelligence at least, even though they're basically beasts). Basically I think I'd class them as Harpies of the sea, though with some society, but still beasty, and the ability to seem beautiful, but then to turn into vicious sea-thingies.

Then again, their appearance is in the Darkblade novels, so the existence of them can't be taken as canon.

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Okay, but my point remains. Elves aren't immune to mutations. They may be resistant, but they're not immune.

Immune, no. Near-immune, yes. It took several thousands of years for the Anointed to begin developing mutations, and they were in the most magically-saturated area of the WH world (Ulthuan excepted, since it doesn't count for the purposes of mutation). Even then, what they got was nothing like what a human would probably recieve in that time.

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I also think that the ogres and halflings resistance to chaos is more psychological than physical (seeing as the former seem to mutate a fair bit - just doesn't alter their mindset a great deal). Elves are very physically resistant to chaos, but greatly less so when it comes to resisting the psychological charms of chaos.

From the sound of it the 7th ed book is once again from an Imperial scholars point of view - hence why skaven are ratlike beastmen and halflings are flawed (though I guess the flaw might be that in reisting the lure of chaos they have pretty much lost any drive to do anything significant)

As for the origin of sirens/merwitchs, remember a lot of beastmen started as beasts not just humans. Elves being the predominant sentient race in the area means that chaos touched creatures will tend to be tainted with a view to elven mythology and mindsets rather than human ones.

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Kreoss wrote:
Perhaps I just don't remember that particular spot in the book, but I don't remember hearing about mere-witches. Actually, they sort of ring a bell, but I don't remember anything about them.


he's talking about the first chapter of 'The Daemon's Curse'. You know where they tell that slave what horrible things they did to his bethrothed before 'freeing' him by throwing him into a certain death in the ocean. Druchii cruelty alright.

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Elves are nearly immune- only some have blue or black skin because of worshipping Slaanesh. I dont get that idea of mythology but it sounds very interesting. Perhaps elves can be changed by magic or getting under totall control of the will Slaanesh (Dechala).

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I think I remember something about some elven princess who worshipped Slaanesh in the pursuit of immortality or beauty or whatever. Read in a white dwarf.


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Talking about this gal Belial? She fits the description.

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Halflings and Ogres were, IIRC, made to battle Chaos.


If that's true there'd be some serious flaws, how could the Halflings successfully fight anything?[/url]

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From the sound of it the 7th ed book is once again from an Imperial scholars point of view - hence why skaven are ratlike beastmen and halflings are flawed (though I guess the flaw might be that in reisting the lure of chaos they have pretty much lost any drive to do anything significant)

Actually, it's written in a word of god perspective, including information on the Old Ones and the prehistory of the WH world, things that no Imperial scholar could know.

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I think I remember something about some elven princess who worshipped Slaanesh in the pursuit of immortality or beauty or whatever. Read in a white dwarf.
During the original Great Chaos Incursion after the polar gates fell, a Daemon Prince known as Samael fell in love with a elf princess. After various attempts to win her over he eventually just killed everyone she knew until he was all that was left and she agreed to marry her.
However she then started to win favour in the eyes of Slaanesh and Samael objected, saying that surely he was the Gods favourite still. Slaanesh agreed and promised that Drechala would never see daemonprincehood whilst he was still favoured (hence the Denied One) - as of yet it seems he is still the favourite.

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Indigo is a light purple colour (color) part of the rainbow spectrum of light [red orange yellow green aqua blue indigo violet. hte one thing i carry from school. Mere-maids scare me they cause plenty of trouble for lonely saliors but not as much destruction as a Kracken


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