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De_te
Trainee Warrior
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:51 pm Posts: 30 Location: Mostly Denmark
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Does anyone use this item anymore?
Personnally i feel like 55 pts is alot for a bound item. But i kinda like the idea about surprisingly casting a bound PoD with your last PD just to get more dices and throw another spell into the enemys face.
But with the new rules it kinda seems unrealistic that someone would bring this item into a game.
Sac. Dagger or DSC seems like a far better and cheeper choice? or is it just me?
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:13 pm |
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Thanee
Rending Star
Joined: Tue Jun 11, 2002 6:10 am Posts: 5030 Location: Germany
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No, I think you are completely right.
I consider it completely worthless in this edition.
The fact, that you need to spend PD now to power it makes it really bad.
Bye
Thanee
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:20 pm |
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Red...
Generalissimo
Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:09 pm Posts: 3727 Location: Baltimore
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It was overpriced in 7th ed, totally pointless in 8th ed. Just ignore it 
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:38 pm |
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Dyvim tvar
Lord of the Dragon Caves
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2003 6:34 pm Posts: 8372 Location: The Dragon Caves of the Underway (Indianapolis IN)
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I loved the thing in 7th Ed. but do not use it in 8th.
I like the general concept of the item since it can multiply your power dice. However, it's not really cost effective. In order to use it reliably, you have to use 2 power dice. Sometimes you'll get 4 back (netting you 2), sometimes it will wash out (recover the 2 dice you used), but overall, it will average out to 1 extra power die per phase.
For that benefit, you can take the Darkstar Cloak for 25 points. No brainer on that one, not to mention the Sacrifical Dagger.
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:09 pm |
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Thanee
Rending Star
Joined: Tue Jun 11, 2002 6:10 am Posts: 5030 Location: Germany
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Exactly. For 10-20 points I would consider it, but for more than 20, no way.
Bye
Thanee
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:14 pm |
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Meteor
Executioner
Joined: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:57 am Posts: 1956 Location: Hell
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at least it doesn't stop your mage from casting further spells if it fails. So it kinda can be used with the one die risk factor early on in your casting phase.
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Jacks -Shade - WS 5 - - S 3 - - T 2 - - D 6 - - I 5 -
Equipment Short Sword, MC Long Sword*, Dagger, RxB & RHB [20/10] MC Shade Cloak, 4 Throwing Daggers, 3x Healing Vials, 451C, [3]Dark Venom, [4]Unseen Chains, Food, Dark Steed- Spike
Skills Basic Stealth, Awareness, TWF, Suithenlu Khythan, Ride
Magic Item Eye of the Jabberwock
*Magical properties possibly imbued
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:27 pm |
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Dyvim tvar
Lord of the Dragon Caves
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2003 6:34 pm Posts: 8372 Location: The Dragon Caves of the Underway (Indianapolis IN)
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Problem is that since it's a bound spell, you don't add your casting level to the roll. So if you roll on 1 die, you will fail 2 out of 3 times. And if you do get a 5 or 6, chances are your opponent will dispel and only use 1 die to do it.
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:48 pm |
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Masked jackal
Noble
Joined: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:26 am Posts: 475
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Its power level is 4 isn't it? Regardless, bad, bad, bad magic item now.
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:15 pm |
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Dalamar
Dragon Lord
Joined: Sat Sep 21, 2002 6:42 pm Posts: 9675 Location: Designing new breeds of Dragons
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It used to be good, now it's horribly overpriced (as are most bound spells).
Still, it's just not as bad off as that one off random spell bound item Empire has... you can get a spell with 10+ casting value and actually have to use dice for it.
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:53 pm |
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Minaras
Trainee Warrior
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:11 am Posts: 33 Location: Lurking....
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Completely redundant item now
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:18 pm |
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Meteor
Executioner
Joined: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:57 am Posts: 1956 Location: Hell
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I wouldn't write it off as 100% redundant. I agree it wasn't as great as back in 7th, it's power level 4 so you still have a 50% chance of succeeding. There's been many instances where I wished my mage could use PoD again after the first got dispelled. But yea, point cost needs to be scaled down for 8th ed haha.
_________________ What's mine is mine, What's yours is mine. Now that we understand each other, lets get down to business.
Jacks -Shade - WS 5 - - S 3 - - T 2 - - D 6 - - I 5 -
Equipment Short Sword, MC Long Sword*, Dagger, RxB & RHB [20/10] MC Shade Cloak, 4 Throwing Daggers, 3x Healing Vials, 451C, [3]Dark Venom, [4]Unseen Chains, Food, Dark Steed- Spike
Skills Basic Stealth, Awareness, TWF, Suithenlu Khythan, Ride
Magic Item Eye of the Jabberwock
*Magical properties possibly imbued
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Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:10 am |
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Masked jackal
Noble
Joined: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:26 am Posts: 475
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It's not just the points cost that makes it redundant, it's also the lack of having one of the other excellent items. Focus Familiar, Darkstar Cloak, Tome of Furion, and last, but certainly not least, the Sacrificial Dagger. All of these are much better choices before even considering points cost.
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Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:44 am |
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Sulla
Malekith's Best Friend
Joined: Fri Nov 08, 2002 5:56 am Posts: 2261 Location: Flying my manticore 'Bloodmaw', looking for prey.
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If there was a draft for arcane items, it'd be about the 9th pick. Not a dreadful item, just not as useful as points spent elsewhere.
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:30 am |
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