How do you like your Lv.4 Sorceress? ;)
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How do you like your Lv.4 Sorceress? ;)
Hello everyone. New here.
Made my account specifically for this question (Im going to do other stuff too though).
My supreme sorceress of choice recently has been. As follows:
Lv.4 with Fire Lore.
Cold One
Pendant of Khaelath
Hydra Blade
Focus Famillar
This totals to about 385 points and revolves around buffing her and the other 6/7 cold one knights I have with her. (Sword of Rhuin and Fire Cloak). It will allow her to get into combat and cause wounds as well as casting during the same turn. Offcourse I dont go charging in to a 40 unit black ork horde. But it has some grunt.
I like the idea of having a sort of Malekith like hybrid where the lord themselves can do damage in combat and cast.
What do you think? Any other fun slightly different builds out there.
Sorry if I've placed this in the wrong section of the forum.
Also I do use a second lv.2 mage to control the magic phase more and add more buffs (metal or go for the simple dark lore) in my 2000pt army.
Made my account specifically for this question (Im going to do other stuff too though).
My supreme sorceress of choice recently has been. As follows:
Lv.4 with Fire Lore.
Cold One
Pendant of Khaelath
Hydra Blade
Focus Famillar
This totals to about 385 points and revolves around buffing her and the other 6/7 cold one knights I have with her. (Sword of Rhuin and Fire Cloak). It will allow her to get into combat and cause wounds as well as casting during the same turn. Offcourse I dont go charging in to a 40 unit black ork horde. But it has some grunt.
I like the idea of having a sort of Malekith like hybrid where the lord themselves can do damage in combat and cast.
What do you think? Any other fun slightly different builds out there.
Sorry if I've placed this in the wrong section of the forum.
Also I do use a second lv.2 mage to control the magic phase more and add more buffs (metal or go for the simple dark lore) in my 2000pt army.
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Interesting build. Do you ever lose a turn due to stupidity?
For my L4's I tend to go a bunkered dagger wielder (Metal or Shadow) or a pegasus, FF, ward save girly (Death or Dark).
It's good to see and hear about novel SS builds, but I go for a fairly standard loadout.
For my L4's I tend to go a bunkered dagger wielder (Metal or Shadow) or a pegasus, FF, ward save girly (Death or Dark).
It's good to see and hear about novel SS builds, but I go for a fairly standard loadout.
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Eager to discover what other stuff will be.
Fine question for this forum.
That's the first time I see this setting.
The FF is near mandatory as she can't cast directly most of Fire spells from combat.
The only advantage of placing the Fire SS in the unit is to grant it Fire Cloak. Everything else, she can do it at distance. So for that advantage, you have to pay for a FF - and the risk of losing your armorless general in melee.
That might be a good way for using the beautiful model of sorceress on CO.
Eager to discover what other stuff will be.
Fine question for this forum.
That's the first time I see this setting.
The FF is near mandatory as she can't cast directly most of Fire spells from combat.
The only advantage of placing the Fire SS in the unit is to grant it Fire Cloak. Everything else, she can do it at distance. So for that advantage, you have to pay for a FF - and the risk of losing your armorless general in melee.
That might be a good way for using the beautiful model of sorceress on CO.
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Its an interesting build, and would probably be quite effective. But, the Hydra Blade is next to useless on a Sorceress.. your getting an extra D3 attacks sure, but she is only S3 so its not going to do much. Maybe consider the Black Dragon Egg for the 2D6 S4 hits in combat, OR the Whip Of Agony will give her 2 attacks at S5 with armour piercing.
Oh, and Id love to get off Flaming Sword on the Cold Ones on the charge... auto wound T4 and under FTW!
The only concern, which I just realised after writing above, is that miscasts can cost you. S10 templates will wreck your own Knight unit, so you cant be too liberal with Power Dice on spells.
Oh, and Id love to get off Flaming Sword on the Cold Ones on the charge... auto wound T4 and under FTW!
The only concern, which I just realised after writing above, is that miscasts can cost you. S10 templates will wreck your own Knight unit, so you cant be too liberal with Power Dice on spells.
Yeah it is a toss up between Whip of Agony and Hydra Blade. Just need those additional attacks :p. If flaming sword of rhuin is cast on the unit then I would accept challengers probably with my champion. So my wizard would mostly be attacking there basic unit. either way if they had T4 it would be 4's to hit 4's to wound. maybe might switch to whip.
If you want your SS to do damage in close combat, consider replacing the pendant of khaine with the black amulet and ditching the hydra blade. It gives a 4+ ward save that bounces back saved wounds against the attacker, with no armour saves allowed.
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I like my sorceress shaken but not stirred.
I prefer to have my sorceress more securely positioned, in a bunker of sorts and well protected so that she never gets into close combat. If she does, I've played her wrong. I always give her the lifetaker so that she can shoot from the back and especially take out skirmishers and etherals. Also, she gets either the focus familiar or sacrifical dagger.... and that's it.
I do consider a second sorceress with dark magic on a pegasus with pendant, but usually I find pegasuses to be quite fragile, and would probably just like a cloaked ring of hotek master to flying around my enemies instead.
Our sorceresses aren't created for close combat. The sorcerers of chaos could do more there, but they too are usually used far away from close combat as well (and mostly on discs with 1+/2+ armor and 3+ wards... grrrr).
When that is said, I think a sorceress of dark magic could be nice for more closer quarters. Soulstealer to gain wounds and word of pain for more survival.
I prefer to have my sorceress more securely positioned, in a bunker of sorts and well protected so that she never gets into close combat. If she does, I've played her wrong. I always give her the lifetaker so that she can shoot from the back and especially take out skirmishers and etherals. Also, she gets either the focus familiar or sacrifical dagger.... and that's it.
I do consider a second sorceress with dark magic on a pegasus with pendant, but usually I find pegasuses to be quite fragile, and would probably just like a cloaked ring of hotek master to flying around my enemies instead.
Our sorceresses aren't created for close combat. The sorcerers of chaos could do more there, but they too are usually used far away from close combat as well (and mostly on discs with 1+/2+ armor and 3+ wards... grrrr).
When that is said, I think a sorceress of dark magic could be nice for more closer quarters. Soulstealer to gain wounds and word of pain for more survival.
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Erm, disturbing concepts aside, that is one very unusual combo you have there - I tried a Sorceress on Dragon once with Pendent, Chillblade and The Other Trickster Shard. However in your combo I don't think that the Hydra Blade is really worth it in any form (maybe if you took Potion of Strength but alas that is not really a good spenditure of points). She isn't a very effective combat character at all - even if you max out her items to do so (and survive). I think that Red is probably right - the Black Amulet could be a solid choice on her (I'd run Dark if so however - go gain Soulstealer: I know that you want the Firecloak to work, but frankly I don't think its worth it for that spell - its probably too 'situational' ie. only used in very specific circumstances)
Erm, disturbing concepts aside, that is one very unusual combo you have there - I tried a Sorceress on Dragon once with Pendent, Chillblade and The Other Trickster Shard. However in your combo I don't think that the Hydra Blade is really worth it in any form (maybe if you took Potion of Strength but alas that is not really a good spenditure of points). She isn't a very effective combat character at all - even if you max out her items to do so (and survive). I think that Red is probably right - the Black Amulet could be a solid choice on her (I'd run Dark if so however - go gain Soulstealer: I know that you want the Firecloak to work, but frankly I don't think its worth it for that spell - its probably too 'situational' ie. only used in very specific circumstances)
My latest build is as follows. (Glad to see others taking lore of fire, the lore thats suppose to suck but actually rocks).
Lvl4
Dark Magic yup
Life Taker
3 null stones
Dispel Scroll
Currently she tools around in a 50 man unit of repeaters.
Lvl4
Dark Magic yup
Life Taker
3 null stones
Dispel Scroll
Currently she tools around in a 50 man unit of repeaters.
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I typically go one of 2 ways:
Level 4, Shadow, Sacrificial Dagger (sometimes Lifetaker) -- That's right, no ward save. Since she is in a unit I try to keep away from combat, I find she really doesn't need one. I park her in a unit of 30 spears for Dagger fuel and let her spells support the rest of the army.
Level 4, Death, Dark Pegasus, Pendant of Khaeleth, Tome of Furion -- Pegasus allows her to get in position to cast short-range sniping spells, to line up a Purple Sun, and/or get a perfect Soulblight bubble. Tome is there so I get everything I want, and the Pendant protects her.
Level 4, Shadow, Sacrificial Dagger (sometimes Lifetaker) -- That's right, no ward save. Since she is in a unit I try to keep away from combat, I find she really doesn't need one. I park her in a unit of 30 spears for Dagger fuel and let her spells support the rest of the army.
Level 4, Death, Dark Pegasus, Pendant of Khaeleth, Tome of Furion -- Pegasus allows her to get in position to cast short-range sniping spells, to line up a Purple Sun, and/or get a perfect Soulblight bubble. Tome is there so I get everything I want, and the Pendant protects her.
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I like my Sorceress alive.
I generally go for cheap mages, give enough items to do what I want to do, really well.
So either Lv3 with Dispel Scroll
or Lv4 with...dispel scoll...? yea... lol. I honestly forgotten what I take on my Lv4, haven't used one for a long time x.x
I generally go for cheap mages, give enough items to do what I want to do, really well.
So either Lv3 with Dispel Scroll
or Lv4 with...dispel scoll...? yea... lol. I honestly forgotten what I take on my Lv4, haven't used one for a long time x.x
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Equipment
Short Sword, MC Long Sword*, Dagger, RxB & RHB [20/10] MC Shade Cloak, 4 Throwing Daggers, 3x Healing Vials, 451C, [3]Dark Venom, [4]Unseen Chains, Food, Dark Steed- Spike
Skills
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Magic Item
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*Magical properties possibly imbued
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Equipment
Short Sword, MC Long Sword*, Dagger, RxB & RHB [20/10] MC Shade Cloak, 4 Throwing Daggers, 3x Healing Vials, 451C, [3]Dark Venom, [4]Unseen Chains, Food, Dark Steed- Spike
Skills
Basic Stealth, Awareness, TWF, Suithenlu Khythan, Ride
Magic Item
Eye of the Jabberwock
*Magical properties possibly imbued
I usually use the Sacrifical Dagger and Lifetaker on my level 4, and that's it. She's never going to get into combat (unless I either play my list wrong, or the rest of the army breaks first), so I want her to be at the back with a small unit of warriors. I also use to have another unit she can join close by, just in case the small warrior unit takes lots of casualities. Most of the time, that reserve unit is a unit of crossbowmen
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I do not like getting my Supreme Sorceress into combat so I go with the more defensive role - Pendant of Khaleth, Dispel Scroll, Seal of Ghrond. Getting spells past her is tough.
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Dangerous Beans wrote:I like my sorceress to not wear any clothes...
Well they were in the 6th ed artwork. Mine got stared at a lot, so I use 6th ed female beast masters now, who are still cute without having their tits out.
As for the OP's build, i have run something similar without success. Also watch out for flame proof characters and units. Dragon princes would laugh their pointy hats off fighting you with all those flaming spells.
As I play a lot of HE, I tend to avoid flaming attacks of all kinds, and just put up with regen monsters when I meet them.
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Lv 4, Dark Magic.
Focus Familiar,
Talisman of Preservation
Healing Potion
Dark Pegasus
Focus Familiar is there for range, and so I can always cast any and every spell I have at any direction
Tal/preservation gives a 4+ save
healing potion restors wounds when I can't get soul sealer (hoping we'll still get the can use in CC when the army gets and update)
Pegasus for mombility
Dark Magic because I can
Lv 4, Dark Magic.
Focus Familiar,
Talisman of Preservation
Healing Potion
Dark Pegasus
Focus Familiar is there for range, and so I can always cast any and every spell I have at any direction
Tal/preservation gives a 4+ save
healing potion restors wounds when I can't get soul sealer (hoping we'll still get the can use in CC when the army gets and update)
Pegasus for mombility
Dark Magic because I can
Who needs sanity? I have a Hydra
L4
Seal of Ghrond
Dispel scroll for non shadow
Dagger for shadow
Seal of Ghrond
Dispel scroll for non shadow
Dagger for shadow
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i find that a death sorc on peg with a 4+ward is easy to use and can make her points back by turn 2 almost every game.
fly up the flank then cast purple sun across the whole enemy battle line banishing everything to the abyss. at throne of skulls, with the help of supreme jammyness, i defeated a whole dwarf gun line tableing the poor guy turn two.
fly up the flank then cast purple sun across the whole enemy battle line banishing everything to the abyss. at throne of skulls, with the help of supreme jammyness, i defeated a whole dwarf gun line tableing the poor guy turn two.
when all else fails, send in the hydra(s)
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Lvl 4
Dark or Shadow
Dagger
Pendant for miscasts
I like reading this topic title and then reading the name of the OP afterwards, makes me giggle...
Dark or Shadow
Dagger
Pendant for miscasts
I like reading this topic title and then reading the name of the OP afterwards, makes me giggle...
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Equipment: Light Armour, Sea Dragon Cloak, Bastard Sword
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Lv 4 dark magic.
Pendant,
crown of command
black dragon egg
on dark steed.
Rush her in an heavy unit. Use all powerdice for soulstealer,
hope for a misscast to do damage to the unit in close combat,
pendant and soulstealer should keep her alive and crown allows her to keep the enemy tied up!
Dragon egg for extra damage!
Works for me! Love the expression on my opponents face when I declare a charge with my SS
Pendant,
crown of command
black dragon egg
on dark steed.
Rush her in an heavy unit. Use all powerdice for soulstealer,
hope for a misscast to do damage to the unit in close combat,
pendant and soulstealer should keep her alive and crown allows her to keep the enemy tied up!
Dragon egg for extra damage!
Works for me! Love the expression on my opponents face when I declare a charge with my SS
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Haven't tried this one yet but could be good.
Lvl4 Dark Magic
Tome of Furion (to ensure she gets Soul Stealer)
Other Tricksters Shard
Black Amulet
Dark Pegasus
A T4 Sorceress with 6 wounds reflecting damage for Ward Saves she makes back onto the opponent who has no armour saves and has to re-roll successful Ward Saves as well.
Lvl4 Dark Magic
Tome of Furion (to ensure she gets Soul Stealer)
Other Tricksters Shard
Black Amulet
Dark Pegasus
A T4 Sorceress with 6 wounds reflecting damage for Ward Saves she makes back onto the opponent who has no armour saves and has to re-roll successful Ward Saves as well.
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