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Triune of Elves! Wood vs High vs Dark! 1k, 1,5k 2,5k ideas? 
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Slave on the Altar

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First Post, glad to be here with all you evil ninjas!

My friends and family; after 22 years of not touching Warhammer, started playing again!!! We have a massive showdown in mid October with my uncle as Wood This Elves, our friend with High Elves, and I am Dark Elves.

We have a 6th-8th edition rules we are trying to configure so some of the older characters can participate due to the fact that many Wood Elf characters are gone. Mostly we are using 7th Edition rule book as our agreed upon standard. I nearly own every model with exception of Hydras, Warlocks, Dark Riders, Sisters of Slaughter and the Kharibdyss. I’m concerned on how to deal with Waywatchers and Teclis. Any Kryptonite for those guys? I’d love to hear ideas on my lists below, and tactics. I’ll post some pictures of the lists to once I get more painted!

What troops would be best suited to address Wood Elves and High Elves?

Because we live in other States, we are taking all weekend to play 3 games.

One will be a Character showdown of a 1,000 points each
Objective: smooth playing & attention to special rules, cohesive magic phase.

OPTION ONE:

1,000 Point Characters

Morathi & Sulephet 455p, Heartrender +45p
=500p
Medusa
=90p
Shadowblade
=300p
5 Black Guard of Naggarond 13p, Tower Master +14p with Dark Venom +10p, Musician +7p, Standard Bearer +14p
=110p

OPTION TWO:

995 Point Characters

Malekith & Seraphon 600p & 320p
=920p
Kouran Darkhand Black Guard Champion
=75p

The Next Game will be 7th Edition following all the rules to the best of our ability. 1,500 Points, Granted, there is some adjustments needed to comply with unit ratios, the amount of Characters, and troop type allowed for such a small army.
Objective: apply what we learned in the previous game on a slightly larger size. Paying attention to combat resolution.

OPTION ONE:

1,470p “Juggernaut”

Hellebron,
Cauldron of Blood +110p, (Gifts of Khaine 50p)
=460p
33 Witch Elves 10p,
Death Hag +90p Battle Standard Bearer +25p, Musician +5p.
=450p

Level 3 Supreme Sorceress 225p
Level 4 +35p, Manticore +200p (Black Dragon +320, Magic Item 100p)
=460p

Reaper Bolt Thrower 100p
=100p

OPTION TWO:

1,468 Point Army

Hellebron
=350p
Dreadlord & Black Dragon 140p & 320p, Lance +6p, Heavy Armour +6p, Shield +3 (100p magic items)
=475p
Cauldron of Blood +110p, (Gifts of Khaine 50p)
=110p
20 Witch Elves 10p, Hag +10p Battle Standard Bearer +25p, Musician +5p,
=250p
Tullaris Dreadbringer Executioner Champion
=95p
14 Har Ganeth Executioner 12p Musician +10p, Standard Bearer +10p
=188p

Lastly this is the one for all the GLORY! 8th Edition 2,500 Points very loose on the editions, rules; basically anything goes as long as I can reference it anywhere official, I can do it!!!!!
Objective: Have fun and see who dominates the other two!

OPTION ONE:

2,456 Point Mega Death Battle!!!

Army Notes:
1. Wizards can use any amount of dice to cast.
2. Witch Elves has B.S.B.
3. Frenzy on Witch Elves.
4. Fear on Executioners.
5. Heavy Magic! Use it!
6. Anvils are Corsairs & Executioners.
7. Hammers are Magic and Witch Elves.
8. Eternal Hatred on High Elves. Re-roll all first missed hits every close combat, applies to mounts too!
Army Power Dice: 2
Army Dispel Dice: 6

Malekith & Seraphon 600p & 320p
Magic Weapon: Destroys Magic Power on 4+(only once)
Magical Armour Save: 4+ only one wound at a time.
Ward Save 2+.
Magic Resistance 2, Dispels against Maliketh cause 1 S6 hit for every die rolled. Bound Spells 1 S6 hit.
Power Dice =5
Dispel Dice =3
Troops pass panic tests with 12”.
=920p

1 Death Hag 90p
Poison Attacks wounds on 6’s
(Cauldron of Blood +110p, Gifts of Khaine: Witch Brew +25p on Witch Elf unit: no combat bonus for enemy, Cry of War +10p: enemy leadership test or WS reduced to 1)
Magic Resistance 1,
Dispel Dice =1
=235p
20 Witch Elves 10p
Hag +10p Battle Standard Bearer +25p, Musician +5p, two attacks
=290p

Tullaris Dreadbringer Executioner
Re-roll fail to wound.
Heavy Armour.
Causes Fear.
=95p
15 Har Ganeth Executioner 12p
+2 Strength, Killing Blow, Musician +6p, Standard Bearer +12p (25p of Magic Standard) Heavy Armour, Killing Blow, Fear.
=198p

Lokhir Heartfell 250p
=250
15 Black Arch Corsairs 10
(Two Attacks) Reaver +10p, Musician +5p, Standard Bearer +10p (Magic Standard 25p)
=175p

15 Dark Elf Repeater Crossbowmen 10p
Guard Master +5p, Musician +5p, Standard Bearer +10p, Shields +1px15
=185p

5 Shade 16p
Light Armour +1px5, Additional Hand Weapon +1px5,
=108p

OPTION TWO:

Caldron of Blood “Death Star” 2,500

Morathi & Sulephet + Sacrificial dagger 25p +Tomb of Furion 25p
=425p
10 Shade =16 Light Armor +1px10
=170P
Reaper Bolt Thrower 2 Operators =70P
=70p
2 Cauldron’s of Blood =190p
=380P
Hellebron +Blind Rage 25p, +Iron Hard Skin 20p
=355p
25 Witch Elves 11=275p, 1 Death Hag +85p, Battle Standard Bearer +25p Banner of Nagerythe +100p, Musician +10p,
=495p
Tullaris Dreadbringer Executioner Captain, Armour of Fortune +35p, (5+ Ward Save).
=190p
25 Har Ganeth Executioner 12p Standard Bearer +10p Scare Crow Banner +5p (Fear to Flyers), +Musician 10p,
=325p
10 Dark Shards 9p
=90P

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Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:48 pm
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It has been a long time, but if I recall well, among our named characters, Morathi was seen the most often. Must be a reason.
Shadowblade, I don't recall seeing him much often.
Kouran would never be used.
So first game, option 1.
Beware of Teclis, he has been seen leading almost 100% of HE armies when named characters were allowed, it must be for some reason.
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Sorceress on manticore, that's a recipe for loss. On dragon, she's hard to play but at least, playable.
This said, WE are probably good against other Elves, so option 1 should work. Option 2 looks acceptable, too, despite no magic.
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Lokhir has poor rules, unfortunately.
Last game, option 2.

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Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:13 pm
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Slave on the Altar

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Thanks for joining the conversation.

Whenever I look at the stats for Manticores I’m usually under impressed, Shadowblade is an extremely expensive Assassin, win a decent chance of knocking a 3 wound character. I’ll go back and revisit that one without magic; moves some things around so there are some spell casting.

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Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:55 pm
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I miss the old days of Warhammer. For what it's worth my favourite time was around the Storm of Chaos book. Looks like you'll have fun anyway with the rules you plan to use.


Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:39 am
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