morathi the frog killer(or telcis) using the darksword

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morathi the frog killer(or telcis) using the darksword

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i though it is worth mentioning in it own post(i couldnt find it said anywhere) that any one who is suicidal enough can kill a 2nd gen slann with one wounding hit from Morathi's darksword. the same applies for most carsters aswell as any character that one has one attack will be killed with one wounding hit.

dont have the book on me but dark sword drops St, Ws, T and A buy one for each wound and if any of them are reduced to zero the model is removed thus anyone with a one for any of these will be killed with one wounding hit

so if your facing a magic heavy army you have a mega mage hunter on a pegihorse that is also your caster

assassin is still a better mage hunter but i though this could annoy some people as it wouldnt be very expected. their fault if they ever leave such a juicy target in the open
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mega mage hunter on a pegihorse


The trouble is that a usual noble on pegasus does the same, but cheaper. Mages often have low fighting stats, hence a hero with lance and three atacks + hatred and a pegasus with another two hatred attacks should do the job just as well, without having to worry about Morathi ending up in combat.

As to slanns dying to one wound - Morathi is S3 (or maybe 4...) no matter which, she still has to get past T6 with her three attacks - and then most likely there is a ward save on the slann... and for the rest - after killing the Slann, what? Morathi will have to fight her way through a bunch of angry temple guards... not the best position for a model as fragile as her...

Most other characters with only one attack will be positioned in a unit which is more than capable of defending the mage against Morathi anyway.

It is a nasty surprise, but then - most opponents know that Morathi is almost as good in combat as a hero level fighter, and thus they won't leave anything in the open because whether it is dark sword or heartpiercer she has - whatever she charges will be dead anyway.

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Seeing as the Slaan isn't in the fighting rank, have fun getting to him.
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Post by Mr. anderson »

Milney wrote:Seeing as the Slaan isn't in the fighting rank, have fun getting to him.


AFAIK you can always challenge him, like a dwarf on oath stone (correct me if I'm wrong).
EDIT - You can't :oops: sorry 'bout that...

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Post by Crawd »

It's a nice idea.. however... Knowing that the Slann has T6 and a 4+ Ward, good luck wounding it with her S3. Pit of Shade is still the best way to kill a Slann.
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Post by Milney »

Slann are T5. And reading through the Palanquin special rules, nothing says that he can be targetted or challenged unless a model could otherwise (as the Palanquin in based in the 2nd rank and doesn't have to move forward unless there are less than 3 models in the front rank).
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Post by Thanee »

Yep, when the Slann is in a unit of Temple Guard, not even Shadowblade can get to him, until the unit has been reduced far enough to create an opening to the center. ;)

You can always shoot him, though, since he is a large target, IIRC.

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Post by Grez90 »

i'v already said this, and i did it better, as i said you give morathi the potion of strength so she is hitting and wounding on 3's, but you cannot challenge a slann until he is in first rank
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if you give morathi the dark sword, she needs the potion of strength and the focus familiar IMO, since she may get bogged down in combat.
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nah, potion and black staff.
you don't really want her in combat, but if she is, then potion offers a bit of fight. unless you are trying to charge a lone mage, in which case go for it.
and the black staff is a must on morathi, seeing as she knows 6 spells, then it is beast to maximize her magic and atleast be able to cast 4/5 of these spells well
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blackstaff and death mask is my preferred method
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Thanee wrote:Yep, when the Slann is in a unit of Temple Guard, not even Shadowblade can get to him, until the unit has been reduced far enough to create an opening to the center. ;)


Yes you can target him in the 2nd row, at least according to the German lizard-book
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Post by Milney »

Dies Irae wrote:
Thanee wrote:Yep, when the Slann is in a unit of Temple Guard, not even Shadowblade can get to him, until the unit has been reduced far enough to create an opening to the center. ;)


Yes you can target him in the 2nd row, at least according to the German lizard-book


Well I'm unsure of the German translation, but the English book has a phrase in its ruling that confuses many people into believing this - but it is referring to shooting/magic.
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Post by Faulkynn grom »

I still say giver her the dagger, slit sulephet's throat turn 1 and then bounce into a unit of power dice, er, spearmen... Add death mask or PoS and yer laughing with a slann of yer own.

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:twisted: nasty, but then killing a slann is always fun, i've always enjoyed a bit of sport.
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Faulkynn Grom wrote:I still say giver her the dagger, slit sulephet's throat turn 1 and then bounce into a unit of power dice, er, spearmen... Add death mask or PoS and yer laughing with a slann of yer own.

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Post by Grandmaster ej »

it is, it just dies, so in theory you could (if you were mad enough) sacrefice a dragon for one power die lol. although for morathi you would have to have an assassin nearby to steed her into said unit of spearmen to make sure she doesnt get shot while shes still alone.
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With the dagger, you could sacrifice a model from the unit you joined.
As far as I know, characters do not join their mounts.
So Sulephet is safe, Morathi has no way to use the dagger.
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