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What do you think of this hunter Master(Noble):

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Instead of the pendant you could have him on a pegasus, but I like the idea of an unkillable hunter character. You could also use a scouting assassin with the cloak, but that doesn't work without a couple casters in the army.

The only real downside besides the premise of needing hunter characters, is that it's a bit cheesy.

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Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:57 pm
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I would get rid of the pendant, it's overkill on a master in my opinion. You could give him the Armour of Darkness and Ring of Hotek instead. I would also get rid of the RHB's.
Alternatively you could just put him on a mount, kit him up with mundane equipment and give him an enchanted shield

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I like the build. I don't see how cheesy would factor into the equation. Yes the ward is nice but it is still a W2 A3 hero. Most of these guys get killed, when they go down, via combat resolution and fluffing attacks anyway. The ward may well be overkill.

Looks like a very good build to lead a fast strike unit of maybe 6 dark riders w/ herald, Std, and shields.

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too expensive imo, besides I don't see the need for a classic 6th Ed. Hunter noble as Dark Riders have become a lot cheaper and harpies are core!

I do use a dark steed noble with caledor's bane though, to hunt chariots....

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too expensive imo, besides I don't see the need for a classic 6th Ed. Hunter noble as Dark Riders have become a lot cheaper and harpies are core!

It's an expensive, more powerful alternative to dark riders and harpies. He'll most likely survive missiles and warmachines, and he'll survive being charged by harassing units(harpies and sometimes dark riders can't).

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Looks like a very good build to lead a fast strike unit of maybe 6 dark riders w/ herald, Std, and shields.

I'm going to try using him solo at first, against gunlines, to take down the hilltop warmachines, or possibly magehunt.

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I would also get rid of the RHB's.

I just thought I'd try out the rhbs for fun. 4 shots, no movement or long range penalties, so I should be hitting skirmishers on 3s. Skirmishers in a wood on 4s. So even in a wood, one guy is able to do a wound to them!

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Elfik wrote:
It's an expensive, more powerful alternative to dark riders and harpies. He'll most likely survive missiles and warmachines, and he'll survive being charged by harassing units(harpies and sometimes dark riders can't).


granted, he has a better save, but for those points i can get 3 units of 5 harpies. Or a unit of Dark riders with xbows and 5 harpies....
I understand what your trying to do, the classic hunter noble was 98 pts a piece.
I just think having S7 to kill chariots is better and adds more versatility to your army then having an unkillable hero.... give the pendant to your dreadlord pr high sorceress.

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I have to agree with Lamekh. With the inclusion of core harpies, its just really not necesary to bring hunter nobles anymore.

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I see the use for hunters for one reason, to deal with chariots. I field a master as follows:

Dark Steed, Caledor's Bane, Enchanted Shield, Heavy Armour, Sea Dragon Cloak.

Comes in at 150p and survives quite a lot, except bolt throwers and cannons. He can deal with chariots and chariot units like noone else and doens't cost a lot. He can even handle smaller units of opposing knight, not even dragon princes should kill him if he charge.

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A simple, cheap and effective combo.

Simple is better sometimes.


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Say what you want, I like the 150 points version of the noble. Very useful against a lot of things. On top of that he is a deadly thing against kinght units due to hatered ;)

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Patrizzo wrote:
I see the use for hunters for one reason, to deal with chariots. I field a master as follows:

Dark Steed, Caledor's Bane, Enchanted Shield, Heavy Armour, Sea Dragon Cloak.

Comes in at 150p and survives quite a lot, except bolt throwers and cannons. He can deal with chariots and chariot units like noone else and doens't cost a lot. He can even handle smaller units of opposing knight, not even dragon princes should kill him if he charge.


My thoughts exactly. If I had the points to spare, I might still give him the twin repeaters as well, just for added flair.

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I think Hunter Masters will have a place, thanks to Eternal Hatred with also transfers to mounts, you have to be a very lucky mage to survive a hunter on a pegasus, where Harpies without Hatred are more likely to fluff their attacks

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Much less effective on a Dark Steed for a headhunter as opposed to a Pegasus. You'll probably find the ward save overkill most of the time...beyond that, solid choice. Even with Core DR and Harpies, I don't think its the death of the Headhunter noble...there are just things he can still kill that neither of the others can, plus they support each other so nicely...

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What about Noble, steed, HA, Sh, SDC, Lance, Potion of Strength? Comes in @ 136 pts has its 2+ save S6 on the charge and then has the potion for one turn of S7 or one turn of S9? Seems like an inferior build to the caledor's bane noble for the most part.

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Since harpies can nowadays use generals LD i'm planning to use hunternoble general and 2*5 harpies as a combination. If they can get to flank they will be most likely to penetrate small units. This táctic is mostly against my beloved undead opponents since getting their mages that cause fear with ld6 harpies has proven difficult.


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I used to run a hunter noble on DP all the time. I've just found better ways to do the same thing, especially given how much we can do with our character slots now.


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I ran a hunter noble last edition with lifetaker, enchanted shield, and a pegusus and he was great for taking out warmachines and the like- the usual duties.

I plan on trying him out again but I see no reason why not to include harpies, DR, and the hunter noble. They all provide redudancy and can fulfill varied roles depending on how the battle goes. They say that no plan survives contact with the enemy so I have backup units to fill the gaps if needed. The synergy between them works so well its crazy.

And if it turns out that my harpies can't take out any warmachines because the hunter noble got them then they can go take a table quarter or march block or...you get the idea.

So in short I don't think the hunter noble is extinct, especially because in a pinch he can still help a combat whereas harpies and DR are more likely to be free CR for the enemy.


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I think it makes a good alternative to harpies and DR's, and while it's more expensive, but just think about how handy that could be to hunt down rogue mages or war machines!

I have never tried this, but you are definitely inspiring me here!

Still, it seems like a waste of a character slot. It would take the slot of one of my 2 sorcs, and I would be wont to lose one of those. Although I suppose now that we can get assassins without using a character choice, it seems more feasable

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I don't see any reason why we can't still take a Hunter Noble. There are many things he can do which Dark Riders and Harpies can't.
I would mount him on a pegasus rather than a dark steed though to give him better movement. I would also stick with the Pendant as this will really help against Cannons and other stuff that tries to get him.

Overall he is a lot more reliable than Harpies and can perform the same job a lot better.

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I would mount him on a pegasus rather than a dark steed though to give him better movement. I would also stick with the Pendant as this will really help against Cannons and other stuff that tries to get him.

Yeah this is why I'll use the pendant on him. So he can go in solo and weather a volley of warmachines before he charges. But on dark pegasus it's ~40pts more and the mount can be shot off so easily. You would have to land right up close to still charge on foot. And against elven bolt throwers on pegasus, I'd pick the ring of darkness instead of the pendant.

If the hunter Noble will be shot at, the pendant is a much better investment then a unit of Dark riders who will just die in one round of shooting. Maybe on pegasus he doesn't need the pendant, but on dark steed I think it's good. Then again, it might be better sometimes to get into combat first, and take out warmachines later. So in this role a Noble with dark riders is better.

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I see the use for hunters for one reason, to deal with chariots. I field a master as follows:

Dark Steed, Caledor's Bane, Enchanted Shield, Heavy Armour, Sea Dragon Cloak.

Comes in at 150p and survives quite a lot, except bolt throwers and cannons. He can deal with chariots and chariot units like noone else and doens't cost a lot. He can even handle smaller units of opposing knight, not even dragon princes should kill him if he charge.


I run this one as well: it is the War Altar's worst nightmare: the Hatred means you should hit with most attacks and then kiss the popemobile goodbye!

If you want to make him a War machine hunter, then this build isn't ideal (overkill), so you might want the defence instead.


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I'd suggest the Peg Hunter should have handbows, and the Steed Hunter should not. The Peg hunter can always use them - unless he walks - whereas the Steed Hunter cannot march and shoot.

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