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So, this is what I'm thinking my army will end up looking like with the additions from the Druchii and Asur books, all the Asrai stuff is already built (bar the Glade Lord/Malekith proxy that I have to convert a 'Treeman' dragon out of the new Mortarch kit).

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Belac Agaith - High House Of The False Face. (Host of the Eternity King) 9,999 points
Lords 2,195 points (22%)
Vali, Chosen Of Loec (Malekith, the Eternity King) (1,000)

M6·WS8·BS7·S6·T6·W10·I8·A10·Ld10
Level 5 Wizard; Lore of Shadow; Armour of Midnight; Circlet of Iron; Asuryath Reforged
Monster (Special Character); Absolute Power; Always Strikes First; Eternal Hatred; Fly; Immune to Psychology; Large Target; Loremaster (Shadow); Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Noxious Breath; Terror; The Eternity King; Shadow Sorceror; Incarnate of Shadow

The Solitaire (Alarielle, Incarnate of Life) (540)

M5·WS6·BS5·S4·T4·W4·I6·A3·Ld10
Level 5 Wizard; Lore of Life; Star of Avelorn; Stave of Averlorn
Infantry (Special Character); Always Strikes First; Loremaster (Life); Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Touch of Purity; Valour of Ages; Locus of Renewal; Incarnate of Life

Iolair The Mirrormantled (Anointed of Asuryan) (310)

M5·WS7·BS6·S4·T3·W3·I8·A3·Ld9
Giant Blade; Enchanted Shield; Crown of Command; halberd; heavy armour
Infantry (Character); Always Strikes First; Blessings of Asuryan; Fear; Magic Resistance (2); Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Valour of Ages; Witness to Destiny

Crecerelle, Queen Of Crows. (Spellweaver) (345)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W3·I5·A1·Ld9
Book of Ashur; Talisman of Endurance; Level 4 Wizard; Lore of High Magic; hand weapon; Asrai longbow
Infantry (Character); Always Strikes First; Blessings of the Ancients; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

• Elven Steed

M9·WS3·BS0·S3·T3·W1·I4·A1·Ld5
War Beast; Fast Cavalry

Heroes 1,990 points (20%)
Lothern Sea Helm (174)

M5·WS6·BS6·S4·T3·W2·I7·A2·Ld9
Shield of the Merwyrm; Sword of Anti-heroes; spear; light armour; shield; bow; Battle Standard
Infantry (Character); Always Strikes First; Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Naval Discipline; Valour of Ages; Windrider

Naestra & Arahan (495)

• Naestra

M5·WS6·BS6·S4·T3·W2·I7·A3·Ld9
Talon of Dawn; Asrai spear; hand weapon; light armour
Infantry (Special Character); Always Strikes First; Conjoined Destiny; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Sisters of Twilight

• Arahan

M5·WS6·BS6·S4·T3·W2·I7·A3·Ld9
Talon of Dusk; Asrai spear; hand weapon; light armour
Infantry (Special Character); Always Strikes First; Conjoined Destiny; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Sisters of Twilight

• Ceithin-Har (Forest Dragon)

M6·WS6·BS0·S6·T6·W6·I3·A5·Ld8
Monster; Fly; Forest Spirit; Large Target; Scaly Skin (3+); Soporific Breath; Terror

Creivel (Shadowdancer) (125)

M5·WS8·BS6·S4·T3·W2·I8·A3·Ld8
Glittering Scales; two hand weapons
Infantry (Character); Always Strikes First; Blessings of the Ancients; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Immune to Psychology; Shadow Dances of Loec; Talismanic Tattoos

Death Hag (155)

M5·WS6·BS6·S4·T3·W2·I7·A3·Ld9
Ogre Blade; two hand weapons; Witchbrew
Infantry (Character); Always Strikes First; Frenzy; Hatred (High Elves); Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Poisoned Attacks

Mage (170)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W2·I5·A1·Ld8
Khaine's Ring of Fury; Dispel Scroll; Level 2 Wizard; Lore of High Magic; hand weapon
Infantry (Character); Always Strikes First; Lileath's Blessing; Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Valour of Ages

Master (158)

M5·WS6·BS6·S4·T3·W2·I7·A3·Ld9
Cloak of Twilight; hand weapon; heavy armour; lance; brace of repeater handbows; Sea Dragon cloak; shield
Infantry (Character); Always Strikes First; Hatred (High Elves); Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

• Dark Steed

M9·WS3·BS0·S3·T3·W1·I4·A1·Ld5
War Beast; Fast Cavalry

Crepitare (Spellsinger) (175)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W2·I5·A1·Ld8
Talisman of Preservation; Level 2 Wizard; Lore of Beasts; hand weapon; Asrai longbow
Infantry (Character); Always Strikes First; Blessings of the Ancients; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

• Elven Steed

M9·WS3·BS0·S3·T3·W1·I4·A1·Ld5
War Beast; Fast Cavalry

Airwen Stallionfriend (Glade Captain) (198)

M5·WS6·BS6·S4·T3·W2·I7·A3·Ld9
Armour of Silvered Steel; Luckstone; hand weapon; Asrai longbow; light armour; great weapon; moonfire shot
Infantry (Character); Always Strikes First; The Arrow of Kurnous; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

• Great Stag

M9·WS5·BS0·S5·T4·W3·I4·A2·Ld7
Monstrous Beast; Fear; Forest Spirit; Impact Hits (D3)

Heja (Waystalker) (110)

M5·WS6·BS7·S4·T3·W2·I7·A1·Ld8
The Bow of Loren; two hand weapons; Asrai longbow
Infantry (Character); Always Strikes First; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Hawk-eyed Archer; Scouts; Sniper

Taka (Waystalker) (90)

M5·WS6·BS7·S4·T3·W2·I7·A1·Ld8
two hand weapons; Asrai longbow
Infantry (Character); Always Strikes First; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Hawk-eyed Archer; Scouts; Sniper

Handmaiden of the Everqueen (140)

M5·WS5·BS7·S4·T3·W2·I7·A2·Ld9
The Reaver Bow; Potion of Strength; spear; Bow of Avelorn; light armour
Infantry (Character); Always Strikes First; Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Quicksilver Shot; Valour of Ages

Core 2,501 points (25.013%)
10 Glade Guard (170)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
hand weapons; Asrai longbows; trueflight arrows; musician; standard bearer
Infantry; Always Strikes First; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

10 Glade Guard (170)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
hand weapons; Asrai longbows; trueflight arrows; musician; standard bearer
Infantry; Always Strikes First; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

10 Glade Guard (170)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
hand weapons; Asrai longbows; trueflight arrows; musician; standard bearer
Infantry; Always Strikes First; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

10 Glade Guard (170)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
hand weapons; Asrai longbows; trueflight arrows; musician; standard bearer
Infantry; Always Strikes First; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

10 Glade Guard (170)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
hand weapons; Asrai longbows; trueflight arrows; musician; standard bearer
Infantry; Always Strikes First; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

37 Eternal Guard (489)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld9
Asrai spears; hand weapons; light armour; shields; musician; standard bearer (Standard of Discipline)
Infantry; Always Strikes First; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Stubborn

• Eternal Warden

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A2·Ld9

10 Dark Riders (230)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
spears; light armour; shields; repeater crossbows; musician; standard bearer
Cavalry; Always Strikes First; Fast Cavalry; Hatred (High Elves); Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

• Herald

M5·WS4·BS5·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8

• Dark Steeds

M9·WS3·BS0·S3·T3·W1·I4·A1·Ld5
Fast Cavalry; Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

10 Dark Riders (230)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
spears; light armour; shields; repeater crossbows; musician; standard bearer
Cavalry; Always Strikes First; Fast Cavalry; Hatred (High Elves); Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

• Herald

M5·WS4·BS5·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8

• Dark Steeds

M9·WS3·BS0·S3·T3·W1·I4·A1·Ld5
Fast Cavalry; Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

10 Glade Riders (235)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
Asrai spears; hand weapons; Asrai longbows; musician; standard bearer (Banner of Swiftness)
Cavalry; Always Strikes First; Ambushers; Fast Cavalry; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

• Glade Knight

M5·WS4·BS5·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8

• Elven Steeds

M9·WS3·BS0·S3·T3·W1·I4·A1·Ld5
Ambushers; Fast Cavalry; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

19 Silver Helms (467)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
hand weapons; lances; heavy armour; Ithilmar barding; shields; musician; standard bearer
Cavalry; Always Strikes First; Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Valour of Ages

• High Helm

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A2·Ld8

• Elven Steeds

M9·WS3·BS0·S3·T3·W1·I4·A1·Ld5

Special 2,393 points (24%)
7 Wild Riders (212)

M5·WS5·BS4·S4·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld9
Asrai spears; hand weapons; light armour; musician; standard bearer
Cavalry; Always Strikes First; Devastating Charge; Fast Cavalry; Fear; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Frenzy; Talismanic Tattoos

• Wild Hunter

M5·WS5·BS4·S4·T3·W1·I5·A2·Ld9

• Steeds of Kurnous

M9·WS3·BS0·S4·T3·W1·I4·A1·Ld5
Fast Cavalry; Fear; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Frenzy; Talismanic Tattoos

7 Wild Riders (206)

M5·WS5·BS4·S4·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld9
Asrai spears; hand weapons; light armour; shields
Cavalry; Always Strikes First; Devastating Charge; Fast Cavalry; Fear; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Frenzy; Talismanic Tattoos

• Wild Hunter

M5·WS5·BS4·S4·T3·W1·I5·A2·Ld9

• Steeds of Kurnous

M9·WS3·BS0·S4·T3·W1·I4·A1·Ld5
Fast Cavalry; Fear; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Frenzy; Talismanic Tattoos

7 Wild Riders (206)

M5·WS5·BS4·S4·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld9
Asrai spears; hand weapons; light armour; shields
Cavalry; Always Strikes First; Devastating Charge; Fast Cavalry; Fear; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Frenzy; Talismanic Tattoos

• Wild Hunter

M5·WS5·BS4·S4·T3·W1·I5·A2·Ld9

• Steeds of Kurnous

M9·WS3·BS0·S4·T3·W1·I4·A1·Ld5
Fast Cavalry; Fear; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Frenzy; Talismanic Tattoos

7 Wardancers (115)

M5·WS6·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I6·A1·Ld8
7× two hand weapons
Infantry (Character); Always Strikes First; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Immune to Psychology; Shadow Dances of Loec; Skirmishers; Talismanic Tattoos

• Bladesinger

M5·WS6·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I6·A2·Ld8

7 Wardancers (115)

M5·WS6·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I6·A1·Ld8
7× two hand weapons
Infantry (Character); Always Strikes First; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Immune to Psychology; Shadow Dances of Loec; Skirmishers; Talismanic Tattoos

• Bladesinger

M5·WS6·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I6·A2·Ld8

7 Sisters of the Thorn (227)

M5·WS4·BS5·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld9
hand weapons; blackbriar javelins; musician; standard bearer (Lichebone Pennant)
Cavalry; Always Strikes First; Daughters of Eternity; Deepwood Coven; Fast Cavalry; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Poisoned Attacks

• Handmaiden of the Thorn

M5·WS4·BS6·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld9

• Steeds of Isha

M9·WS3·BS0·S4·T3·W1·I4·A1·Ld5
Daughters of Eternity; Deepwood Coven; Fast Cavalry; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

6 Warhawk Riders (280)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W2·I5·A1·Ld8
Asrai spears; hand weapons; Asrai longbows
Monstrous Cavalry; Always Strikes First; Flying Cavalry; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

• Wind Rider

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A2·Ld8

• Warhawks

M1·WS4·BS0·S4·T4·W3·I5·A2·Ld5
Armour Piercing; Flying Cavalry; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Predator's Descent

6 Warhawk Riders (280)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W2·I5·A1·Ld8
Asrai spears; hand weapons; Asrai longbows
Monstrous Cavalry; Always Strikes First; Flying Cavalry; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

• Wind Rider

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A2·Ld8

• Warhawks

M1·WS4·BS0·S4·T4·W3·I5·A2·Ld5
Armour Piercing; Flying Cavalry; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Predator's Descent

10 Deepwood Scouts (170)

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
hand weapons; Asrai longbows; hagbane tips; musician
Infantry; Always Strikes First; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Scouts; Skirmishers

10 Shades (190)

M5·WS5·BS5·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
hand weapons; repeater crossbows; great weapons; musician
Infantry; Always Strikes First; Hatred (High Elves); Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Scouts; Skirmishers

Death Jesters Of Loec (26 Har Ganeth Executioners) (392)

M5·WS5·BS4·S4·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld9
great weapons; heavy armour; musician; standard bearer (Wailing Banner)
Infantry; Always Strikes First; Hatred (High Elves); Killing Blow; Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess

• Draich Master

M5·WS5·BS4·S4·T3·W1·I5·A2·Ld9

Rare 920 points (9%)
10 Waywatchers (200)

M5·WS4·BS5·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
two hand weapons; Asrai longbows
Infantry; Always Strikes First; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Halk-eyed Archer; Scouts; Skirmishers

10 Waywatchers (200)

M5·WS4·BS5·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
two hand weapons; Asrai longbows
Infantry; Always Strikes First; Forest Strider, Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Halk-eyed Archer; Scouts; Skirmishers

Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower (70)

M–·WS–·BS–·S–·T7·W2·I–·A–·Ld–
War Machine (Bolt Thrower); Repeater Bolt Thrower

• 2× Sea Guard Crew

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
hand weapon; light armour
Always Strikes First; Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Valour of Ages

Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower (70)

M–·WS–·BS–·S–·T7·W2·I–·A–·Ld–
War Machine (Bolt Thrower); Repeater Bolt Thrower

• 2× Sea Guard Crew

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
hand weapon; light armour
Always Strikes First; Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Valour of Ages

Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower (70)

M–·WS–·BS–·S–·T7·W2·I–·A–·Ld–
War Machine (Bolt Thrower); Repeater Bolt Thrower

• 2× Sea Guard Crew

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
hand weapon; light armour
Always Strikes First; Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Valour of Ages

Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower (70)

M–·WS–·BS–·S–·T7·W2·I–·A–·Ld–
War Machine (Bolt Thrower); Repeater Bolt Thrower

• 2× Sea Guard Crew

M5·WS4·BS4·S3·T3·W1·I5·A1·Ld8
hand weapon; light armour
Always Strikes First; Martial Prowess; Murderous Prowess; Valour of Ages

Frostheart Phoenix (240)

M2·WS6·BS0·S6·T6·W5·I3·A4·Ld9
Monster; Attuned to Magic; Blizzard Aura; Fly; Large Target; Natural Armour (5+); Terror



The characters will be split between the blocks of Eternal Guard and Executioners (Everqueen, Handmaiden and Sea Helm in Eternal Guard, Annointed, Death Hag, Shadowdancer and Mage in the Executioners), the cav characters go in with the Sisters, the Great Stag goes in with the Silver Helms. Lots of Warhawks because I like them (I've got six converted out of witch elves with Tyranid Gargoyle wings, the other six might end up riding Giant Ravens I think and a 'Frostheart' Raven conversion.

I think it's a nice big dirty list that gives me lots of options to choose from when I play smaller games and I can play my special characters as generic characters, move bolt throwers from Rare into Special if I want to. Lots of shooting and small unit tactics but some nice big blocks to force my opponents across the table to get me and lots of movement shenanigans with the Glade Riders, Dark Riders, Shades, WW and Malekith. I like options and big games! :lol:

I still think it's softer than when I used to run a high elf prince on a dragon (white, back when you could choose), Imrik, Asarnil and a wood elf on forest dragon as an ally. Back then they had fly high, and I was young and impetuous (you know a bastard). I'm still working on it, a lot of it is stuff that I want to convert and kitbash as much as trying to get filthy stuff in there.

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Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:45 am
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30 Phoenix Guard
20 Sisters of Avelorn
1 Handmaiden
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12 Waywatchers
9 Sisters of the Thorn
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Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:40 am
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Makiwara wrote:
So, this is what I'm thinking my army will end up looking like with the additions from the Druchii and Asur books, all the Asrai stuff is already built (bar the Glade Lord/Malekith proxy that I have to convert a 'Treeman' dragon out of the new Mortarch kit).

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Vali, Chosen Of Loec (Malekith, the Eternity King) (1,000)


This is a really nice way to utilise the changes. When you think about it, the power of the rules of Malekith The Eternal King have an archetypal eldritch Elven feel to them. He could quite easily represent:

- An ancient Phoenix King (even Aenarion!) or a new Caledorian Phoenix King blessed by Asuryan

- An Asrai High King riding a Dragon blessed by Kurnous (or Loec in your example)

- Of course, the King of the Dark Elves!

Converting DE/HE/WE units into our own particular army style and fluff is one of the most creative and interesting uses of these End Times combined lists IMO.

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Only one thing. My executioners will begrudgingly protect a Loremaster of Hoeth as he escorts his Book of Hoeth to the next battlefield. That's assuming spell spamming. If no spell spamming then a High Elf Wizard Lord with High magic and said book. Love them ward saves!


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I'm thinking either White Lions or Swordmasters pushing the Cauldron of Blood with witchbrew death hag (most likely White Lions for the Stubborn).
Joined by a level 1 or 2 high wizard.

Army lead by a level 4 Shadow Wizard (or Malekith) because holy crap Shadow Bridge is a game winner spell. If not Malekith then the wizard is a high elf for the book of broken.

Glade Guard provide fire support while Sisters of the Thorn and Warlocks are the fast cavalry of choice (Sorry non-wizard fast cavalry)

White Lions teleport about the field, getting super close to biggest enemy threat that can't escape. When charging they go with 3 S6 attacks each (due to own magic phase and Cauldron Bound Spell). When charged they go with 2 S6 attacks.

They are provided MR1 and 6++ from the cauldron. which the high mage improves as much as possible (single spell makes the CoB 3++ and 2++ against spells, 3 spells make the entire unit 3++ and 2++ against spells). Stubborn makes them not go anywhere until the last white lion (common problem with the witch horde once they start dropping models)

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Dalamar wrote:
I'm thinking either White Lions or Swordmasters pushing the Cauldron of Blood with witchbrew death hag (most likely White Lions for the Stubborn).
Joined by a level 1 or 2 high wizard.

Army lead by a level 4 Shadow Wizard (or Malekith) because holy crap Shadow Bridge is a game winner spell. If not Malekith then the wizard is a high elf for the book of broken.

Glade Guard provide fire support while Sisters of the Thorn and Warlocks are the fast cavalry of choice (Sorry non-wizard fast cavalry)

White Lions teleport about the field, getting super close to biggest enemy threat that can't escape. When charging they go with 3 S6 attacks each (due to own magic phase and Cauldron Bound Spell). When charged they go with 2 S6 attacks.

They are provided MR1 and 6++ from the cauldron. which the high mage improves as much as possible (single spell makes the CoB 3++ and 2++ against spells, 3 spells make the entire unit 3++ and 2++ against spells). Stubborn makes them not go anywhere until the last white lion (common problem with the witch horde once they start dropping models)



And you -disagree- with my comment that our 'new' book is OP? :?


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The mechanics Dalamar describes can be considered OP not because of the book (take BG instead of White Lions, you get nearly the same result with a pure DE army).
What can be said to be OP is the new magic system.

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Calisson wrote:
The mechanics Dalamar describes can be considered OP not because of the book (take BG instead of White Lions, you get nearly the same result with a pure DE army).
What can be said to be OP is the new magic system.



The new magic system breaks the game. But my example of taking the best and most complimentary combos elves have to offer makes the Book at the very top even exceeding Legion of Chaos.


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@dalamar don't white lions get a bonus to their armor save against shooting.

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Witch Elves painted in a wood elf theme might be a neat addition to a WE army. I might get me some elven archers to fill up the core and field 2 elite combat units.
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Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:44 am
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I've out a few ideas down and have come up with something like the following:

Loremaster with Book
Master BSB on a horse
Master on a Pegasus with the Book

8 SilverHelms (BSB gors here)
5 dark riders with toys
5 dark riders with toys
Probably Darkshards, maybe LSG depending on points

Big block of executioners (lore master goes here)
Double RBT

Double Warlocks

This still leaves me with some 500 points to spend on eg a frost Phoenix, second combat unit (Phoenix guard) and a bunch of chaff (Eagles/shades). I might drop the Pegasus to make it happen.

Of course, things are still up in the air at the moment so I'm going to wait to see how it turns out before committing. For instance I've no interest in using big mega characters or khaine Magic.


Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:42 pm
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Clockwork wrote:
I've out a few ideas down and have come up with something like the following:

Loremaster with Book
Master BSB on a horse
Master on a Pegasus with the Book
. For instance I've no interest in using big mega characters or khaine Magic.



What book for master on peg?


Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:12 pm
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Whoops brain fart. Meant of course the Cloak!


Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:38 pm
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I'll be fielding an Aestyrion list as I like their fluff the most. A White Lion unit with World Dragon and a Bloodwrack Shrine seems like fun. I may even take some Silver Helms to represent Tyrion's countrymen who stayed loyal to him throughout the campaign. They aren't too threatening but having core heavy cav is appealing to me.


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A loremaster and a special unit, perhaps. Phoenix Guard most likely. Looking foward to start painting/modelling again after a long hobby limbo.

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Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:47 am
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So where's all the sweet Eternity King conversions at? Let's see 'em folks!

To start things off: some mocked up Eternity King Silver Helms.

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Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:54 pm
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Love that conversion! Totally worth copying in the future :P

Once I get my Wild Riders painted I'll post'em up here. Headhunters for Kurno...I mean Khaine!

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Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:31 am
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In keeping with my affections for all things nautical, I've added a reasonably-sized unit of Sea Guard and a kit-bashed Sea Helm. They are joined by a unit of Swordmasters escorting a Mage or Loremaster (which will be converted from one of the IOB Swordmaster musicians) and two units of Ellyrian Reavers from the IOB set. What can I say, they were going cheap, and my Dark Riders are sorely missed in an Aestyrion list.

Given that these options support either an Aestyrion or Phoenix King build, I'm going light on Wood Elf options. I've picked up a Spellweaver for access to Dark Magic in a Phoenix King list, although I suppose I could always proxy in a Sorceress.

I was thinking of making a "wind, waves, forest and flames" themed list, using the Host of the Phoenix King. The additions above would be handy for that, but I'm thinking I'll also add a Flamespyre Phoenix, some Wild Riders and Sisters of the Thorn, a handful of archers (to be fielded as Glade Guard, Deepwood Scouts or Waywatchers), Dryads with a Branchwraith option, and a Treeman. Part of me wants to add Wardancers, but I tend to think of them as a poor man's Sisters of Slaughter, and the new Witch Elves work reasonably well as proxies. If I can afford them, I'll also throw in a Skycutter, one or two Great Eagles, and a few Warhawk Riders... not optimal choices, to be sure, but they work with the theme, and with a concept I'm working on for some more End Times fluff stories.

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9 man dart of wardancers with the killing blow dance for character assassinations is always handy, hell even a five man pack can be a good toolbox or speed bump.

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Makiwara wrote:
9 man dart of wardancers with the killing blow dance for character assassinations is always handy, hell even a five man pack can be a good toolbox or speed bump.


Agreed - it was a deliberately provocative statement. :mrgreen:

I'm still likely to proxy the new Witch Elves as Wardancers for the time being, though.

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Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:08 pm
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Loremaster!

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Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:05 am
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Oh I like that, nice and simple, works with multiple army styles, might have to gank that idea! What sword arm is that?

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Some nice conversions mixed across the ranges on show there.
Definitely something to ponder there for my own project.

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Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:39 am
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Makiwara wrote:
Oh I like that, nice and simple, works with multiple army styles, might have to gank that idea! What sword arm is that?


Hmm. The arm itself from elbow to wrist is taken froma dark rider. The hand and sword is either cold one knight champion or a small possibility of belonging to the black dragon kit or IoB Swordmaster champion. Not entirely sure as found it in my bits box! Edit: definitely looks like thr knights l champion. The shoulder ia attached to the charioteer body btw.

On tbe right of the picture you can aee a mock up of my Eternity Guard - more are on the way!


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