Like T.D., I remember Ichiyo1821 = Go Rin No Sho. Nice to see you back, buddy! Tethlis not seen for ages. Daeron there nearly daily. Callisson, never seen a post fom that guy. Myself don't know KoW but very deeply engaged in 9th Age. The armies will remain very customizable, but there will be obvio...

jtrowell wrote:Well, people switching to 9th age or Kings of War might be in fast them keeping the old Warhammer Fantasy Battle more alive than those playing AoS.

To the OP, if 9th age is not to your tastes, maybe you might like Kings of War better ?

Ah no. I like 9th Age so far, its AOS I don't.

I am BACKKKK AND I AM PISSED! Sorry to call the kettle black but after years of hiatus (well sorta, just was on the other side of the fence with 40K and recently X-Wing and ALMOST went Malifaux and Warmahordes) I am back but it 'aint all roses! So forgive me for the rant but please do allow me to ve...

Closer since I now use 4 units of fast cav and bolt throwers with knights and monsters. What's your friend's list and yours?

Both? Show us the list, my precious do you have enough points leftover for artillery and warlocks, too? "Knights are a chock choice" Yeah, that one is me typing abit too fast and skipping on the proofreading. It was meant to read shock choice. You buy them as shock cavalry; they hit hard,...

Funny but my 8th edition lists is closer to my 6th ed lists more than 7th or early 8th with the old book. The new DE got weaker in some of our book defining cheat mode builds but became better across the board which is beyter suited to my style of play. Now I literally have equal threat on all my un...

I fit in a single unit of Harpies in my lists as well to help with the witchelf anti frenzy baiting and the general annoyance moves. Their smaller footprint is still invaluable againsts some armies.

Great topic. I agree with a lot of the points here. Fortunately for me I use both in my 2500 list..

I have done 2 units of 10 CoK, 2 Hydras, 15 Dark Riders and 2 pegasus characters and harpies with shades with the old book and I son't think it will be any different from the new book. It is actually better now since we had cheaper and better kbeasts and Warlocks!! It will work however you need sust...

I do a mix of 3-5 units of fast cavs 5 mieels per unit. 5x2 shades or 10 20 rxb 20-30 WE or Corsairs 21-30 Execs My trademark 11-12 CoK 2 monsters I mix and match but my constant is realky a combination of 4 hard hitting units. I use shooters just to "shape" the battlefield and kill chaff....

That is why I advoxate 4 hammers if possible in a DE army. With the new book you can actually make a list where everything just hurts. When I build my lists I make it a point that no matter what your opponent kills, there will always be another source of damege or threat. My current list is downrigh...

I thought I was looking at a 6th edition list Haha. Surprisingly this list will work against some armies out there. Totally frustrating to fight against.

Too much shooting even for me...If you face Dwarves or Empire gunline or Skaven you might as well eat lunch instead.

Big Cojones my man hahaha.

We have a near identical list. Level 4 Shadow, dispel, opal Deathag Bsb cob wb 30 we Dark Riders rxb s Dark Riders rxb s Dark Riders naked 12 Cok swiftness 21 Execs 4 rbt 2 K beast Warlocks Warlocks I bet the lists play almost the same with the excwptiin that rbts seem ok with me as they deal with c...

There are only two useless items in our current book. Banner of Naggarythe (it was always useless) and gem of spite (no idea who considered that item useful in any way). Everything else is good, some more situational and list dependent than others. Which is why I think otherwise. In my opinion ther...

I like corsairs as core. people underestimate the value of a 4+ armor these days. Yes, big nasty things are in the current meta but what would you rather have in a one on one fight against str 3/4 armies, witch elves or corsairs? Losing 1 attack per model and the forced overrun/pursue is a small pr...

You put your Supreme Sorceressnin Witches???????

Haagrum pretty much nailed the basics. Chariots are really for countercharging to provide ACR to block troops or added punch with relatively same speed to a All-Cavalry list. Scourgerunners are different though, charging is their secondary role against chaff maybe but if they can avoid melee and jus...

Btw your second list has too many points on characters. I understand that sometimes it can be a good strat for point denial but personally I prefer to just have a lot of units and combo charge everything all the time. I prefer gaining points by just wiping the board and killing everything as opposed...

Most of the posts above have great input and I will just try to speculate what might have been left out. I have always advocated threat equal threat saturation. At the risk of sounding braggy, to be honest it seems very easy to get around your list seeing that aside feom the shooting and magic, all ...

My 2500 list still has 11\12 xok bus with banner of swiftness and I use them pretty much as I have with the 7th ed book. I son't get why people are getting charged. We have so much chaff from Harpies, Dark Riders, Shades, Warlocks and even peg characters that my opponent will never get the charge on...

The power of COK was already mentioned by the posters above. You are not suppose to think of units in a vacuum. It's not all about math hammer. Having a 2 +as unit that hits like a brick on top of Monsters and Execs and RBTs mean that you just need to find a target for the COK block. You are not sup...

I seriously laugh at people who think COK are rubbish...maybe you are not using them right.

I am going to test this one out. The problem with the new cloak is that we wont have points for a ward save and most likely the dawnstone is with the bsb. Put the dreadlord on a dp. To make him t4 immune to kb. Cloak 50 Warrior Bane 5 Potion of Strength 20 Dragonbane gem 5 for anti metal snipe or fl...