It seems to me like he can do that charge without too much problems. Not even a 90 degrees turn needed. If he has line of sight with his unit, he can move forth what seems to be 4-5 inches, then do the turn for about 60-70 degrees and run straight into the corner of the sorceress. Once they touch th...

any of the push it forwards lists will give this list fits. throgg and 30 trolls will just line up side to side and roll over a list like this. a wall of 1+ save empire will do similar. I disagree a bit with this one. Imo. the worst problems this list can meet, is a list without deathstarish units....

The list is very strong for sure. If played really well and up against people who aren't that good or certain armies which aren't mobile enough/can't deal with avoidance, it's a monumental task to handle. Do you play with a few friends, or are there a bigger group of people you play against? If it i...

He can, although the General of a VC army MUST have the Vampire lore... so you rarely see a vampire lord with death.

A VC player cheated against me with that once already... although I mindrazored him back to oblivion, so it was okay.

I think you should have some sorceAARRRRGghhhh... (eaten by manticore as well) Seriously though, I think the list looks like a lot of fun. The manticores and dragon will get a rough time against a cannon list of sorts, although against the right opponents, you'll have a blast (even though your oppon...

Well, we couldn't expect items of same quality as the previous book. It's the same for every book though... there are just some few items which stand out as really powerful, while most are just a bit meh. We have a few nice items still, even though most builds use more items from the BRB. I wouldn't...

triouto wrote:Cloak of twilight and black dragon egg are both enchanted items, no?

Yep! Gotta cheat a bit then!

@Gerner: Well, then we agree to disagree I guess we have a bit of difference in how we want to use our shades. I feel that the GW option lacks the punch that is needed to get into close combat with armored units, while AHW would add that extra damage which gives them a better edge against the troops...

My dragon lord usually has the Armor of Destiny, Dawnstone and OTS on him... and then just a lance. He won't do that much damage in the rounds he doesn't charge, but as you have a dragon together with his initial attacks, you should be able to deal swiftly with DP and Vampire lords. Another build I ...

My thoughts is that the set is a decent start to get some basic units that works quite well... and as you might understand from that, is that it's a set I wouldn't have bought as it doesn't give me what I need for tournament lists. From the things in that set, I only really field the Cold one Knight...

I would rather do 2 wounds against a unit of Empire Knights, than do 20 wounds to some Zombies. The Zombie also cost 1/10 of a Knight. Lastly I would rather stop a Knight unit, than fight some Zombies. You're missing both of my points. 1. Forget the specified troops and just thinks stats. Instead o...

Oh, I run all my shades into such units all the time! Those unit types were just simple examples, things people know quite easily as they are used all the time... what I set up was kinda beside the point. I just wanted to show how they would do against low T without much armor to higher T with much ...

I've been going over the lists I've been creating lately, and see that I always go with AHW if I go with any extra weapons on my Shades. Previously, there were quite clear reasons to why you would go with AHW instead of GW, but with our new book... it's less so. I am in the opinion of AHW being bett...

You have to kill both the mount and the character on top to get any VP. It's why it can still be worth to field monsters with a somewhat unkillable lord on top... If the mount dies due to some cannon shot, the lord can just move into a normal unit and the points are still safe. However, some tournam...

I meant to ask if the hag would have to test on her -3 ld to see if she charges out of the unit, and the unit tests on unmodified normal frenzy LD She won't charge out of the unit on her own, unless you chose to charge out. And since she won't have superfrenzy at all while she is in a unit (that ha...

Seems like the last part of my post about the list was kicked over to that other thread too! I think that the list looks quite good. The DH can die a bit too quickly, so I agree that it can be a bit of a big weakness against some lists (which can deal with her quickly). As you can put her on the edg...

Not the way I read it using plain English. The last clause is NOT conditional. It is 'additional'. The first sentence says that "this model, and all the models in the same unit" gains frenzy. The second sentence says that "if they already have the Frenzy special rule", they gain...

The storekeeper needs to read the BOOK , where it says exactly what Dalamar says. It's how you can charge around corners in terrain and other obstacles. It's important to remember that you can't turn around as much as you want while charging though, so if your unit C would have crashed in unit B, yo...

Be honest, I can take it!! Get a new army!!! No, just kidding I personally dislike the CoB, as I think it's too many points for what it does. Then again, if I was to run it, this list is quite identical to those I experimented with. The biggest issue I have as far as I can see, is that you have two...

Witchbrew gives the -3 ld for frenzy. No, it gives you frenzy if the unit doesn't have it already, and an extra frenzy if they already have it. In the case of the latter, you also get -3 LD. Even if you go with the logic that the Death hag gets that extra frenzy even while the rest of the unit gets...

This is a bit of threadomancy but isn't this 'rumor' one that his been floated around pretty annually? It seems like at least once a year I read some post claiming 'GW is going to be sold' or 'GW has a potential buyer' and it never materializes. That doesn't make this one wrong, just rather suspect...

As Dyvim tvar says. Unit C gets to charge and touches the corner of unit A... and aligns itself as much as it can to the position of unit A. Then unit A has to "close the door" (mentioned in the BRB somewhere), aligning itself to face unit C straight on. The real problem comes if you had a...

Imo, the current Corsairs are actually better than the previous ones. That being said, you have the WE and DR to which I feel are stronger choices. I will never run the CoB with the WE, so I would get a unit that is very easy to shoot down if I give my opponent the chance to do so. We have lots of n...

I've personally played against, and tried out, a list that has a sorceress level 4 with beast magic, lots of different master builds (with MR3, crown of command and so on) in a warlock unit of 10 to 15. I think it'll work better than several level 1 sorceresses (where just a few will get to cast spe...

I like the list... even though I'd have a few tweaks if I was to run something similar. The lord has already a lot of S6 attacks with the dragon and on the charge (which you will get most of the time). I personally favour the Armor of Destiny, Dawnstone and OTS on him, as it would make him insanely ...