You should still have a few hundred ppoints after that so look at a master in a unit of CoKs with the ASF banner. PoK and soulrender on the master will certainly handle most things since he gets to strike at initiative due to the ASF banner. If you play a unit like this, the Whip of Agony on the CO...

Yeah, I kinda agree with Rabidnid there. The Corsairs and Witch Elves need more numbers to be effective. Manbane is great for the WE champion. The DR are pretty useless against VC. Harpies are much more efficient redirectors. I would also go as far as taking out all the characters, except the Level ...

I pretty much always play 2 Chariots. They are very good.

They are tough, and can hold up some targets quite well. They will defeat all the lighter units and are useful support for infantry regiments.

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Yeah, I would say the same. They are hit simulatenously, therefore the order is irrelevant.

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Welcome to druchii.net, nonfactor!

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Well, those dice weren't on your side for sure.

Did you get Withering? Getting that cast on the big ogre unit and then shooting them with tons of RXB bolts could yield quite some wounds after all.

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Playing without magic works fine, but you need to be aware, that you will have to let some spells through your defenses and only dispel the really nasty stuff. I would rather take the Seal of Ghrond instead of the Black Dragon Egg and leave the 2nd Master out completely to get more troops (the Obsid...

Currently: Freebooter's Fate. Otherwise, Necromunda/Mordheim, and a lot of Confrontation 3, but havn't played that for quite some time now (years, literally), since Rackham went down. What a shame. Warmachine isn't for me. I just don't like how it plays. But it is also very big around here, along wi...

Definitely Ogres. They are so ugly to look at.

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Yeah, the single-model-army is also a valid (and rather cheesy) option, of course.

Though, I would tool him up with (at least) Pendant of Khaeleth and Crown of Command (ideally with the Dragonhelm, too), and then some weapon (Soulrender is a great choice here).

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Shadow is ridiculously powerful even without the Mindrazor (in fact, I rarely use it). The big ones are Miasma (lower Movement early on, later lower WS) and the Strength/Toughness debuffs here. Lower a units Toughness then shoot it to bits with tons of RXBs. Pit of Shades, of course, can be devastat...

So... General, 2x Hydra - There's your army! In fact, though, I think spending more on the general and "only" getting one Hydra is better. 305 Dreadlord on Dark Pegasus with Soulrender, Repeater Handbow, Heavy Armour, Sea Dragon Cloak, Dragonhelm, Pendant of Khaeleth, Crown of Command 100 ...

Omnichron wrote:War Hydra is unfortunately too many points for 545 points, if not it would have been a good idea.

Well, he said, he can bend the recruitment rules a little... not sure what that means precisely, but if it means that the % do not have to be followed that strictly...

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Dreadlord on Black Dragon with Greatweapon, Armour of Darkness, Pendant of Khaeleth, Crown of Command Hey, you said you can bend the army composition rules... For a more serious approach, I would go with... Master on Cold One with Greatweapon, Heavy Armour, Sea Dragon Cloak, Dragonhelm and Pendant o...

Where are the Harpies? Every DE list needs Harpies! Supreme Sorceress: Fire? Why not Dark Magic, it is quite nice and easy to cast. (You probably stay away from Shadow / Death deliberately, those are - of course - the best options.) Dreadlord: I would also take Giant Blade out for Crimson Death or S...

Yes, it has quite some nasty stuff, but I agree with Zenith, that it does need less characters and more units.

If your magic does not work, you will be completely outmatched.

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Calisson wrote:Note that PoK provides no protection against KB.

Are you sure? The attack does have a Strength, after all.

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Obviously, they will make a new model, since the Cold One models have been changed in 7th edition (thankfully). For some weird reason, they didn't do that during the 7th edition time, so they will definitely do so, when the new armybook comes around. Best option to get one right now is hunt the old ...

Well... 30 pts for the shields isn't exactly lots (and against other S3 infantry, which is what the Warriors should tangle with, they are worth those 30 pts).

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But Warriors look better with shields.

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I'm a big fan of Cold One Knights in 8th edition (usually playing 10). They almost always worked well for me. You are missing the Whip of Agony on your COK Champ. It is sooo good (even better with the Standard of Hag Graef, but then I agree, that BoM makes sense against WoC), esp. when you happen to...

Shades are great to attack warmachines and other light targets (the hard part is to find a spot where you can deploy them, where they won't get attacked on first turn, and are in a position from which they can threaten the opposing warmachines, usually somewhere at the side). Even a kamikaze charge ...

What are the weaknesses I need to mitigate for? Other than having to learn a whole new game (because a lot works very different now), not much, really (apart from the low Toughness as usual). Here are some good character/unit choices: LORDS Dreadlord on foot or Cold One Supreme Sorceress on foot (e...

When one side deploys Scouts with their special rule, does this count as having deployed the last unit (so the other player gets +1 on the roll who goes first)?

I don't think this is intended to work this way, but I also cannot find anything that says otherwise.

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Looks like a nasty list on paper.

You are missing Standard of Discipline on the Warriors, though.

A Seal of Ghrond or Lifetaker would also be a good idea, if you can afford it.

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