Master on Manticore options?

Jurgen · Post by **Jurgen** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:31 pm

I have a problem in how to equip a master on manticore.
The armylist is a balanced 2250pt army for a tournament with army composition limitations.

I have no specific task for the master on manticore, it should serve more as an multipurpose unit, depending on the opponents army and deployment. Presently iam considering the Ring of darkness, lance, full armour.
What are your magic item setups for it, and why?

Just in case, here is my army list:
L4 sorceress
COB
Manticore master
20 warriors
2x 5 DR,r.c
2x 5 harpies
6 COK
14 BG
7 Exec
5 shades
Hydra

Post by **Dyvim tvar** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:57 pm

first question -- how many points do you have to spend?

Jurgen · Post by **Jurgen** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:14 am

As many as I like

Point cost is not a problem, I can tailor the army list acordingly. So the maximum 50pt magic items allowance and any mundane equipment , whitout any magic or mundane shooting weapons which I dont want to take for army comp reasons.

Dread_knight666 · Post by **Dread_knight666** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:39 am

Lots of people run him as a BSB with full mundane and the standard of slaughter..

The ring of darkness is also a good choice too since it gives the manticore protection too.

And giving the master the KB lance makes for a nasty character hunter..

Deadlydeception · Post by **Deadlydeception** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:53 am

If you really want multi purpose, you may want to consider the black dragon egg. I have found that it is nice to be able to get that deadly flame template down at critical times.

I run mine with heavy armour, sea dragon cloak, enchanted shield, lance and the egg, and it always is useful.

Zeb · Post by **Zeb** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:44 am

I've been toying with full mundane equipment, Beastmasters Scrounge or Lance and Repeater Handbows as well. And Hydras Teeth.... I know a lot of people don't like them, but you can open a flank with them, relatively easily. If you face a big regiment throw them all... hehehe!

Falconrider · Post by **Falconrider** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:09 am

Hydras teeth are also good for throwing at warmachines. Sometimes the enemy sets up his defenses well and the poor harpies and dark riders cant get thru. Wham land within 12 and toss the teeth.

Jurgen · Post by **Jurgen** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:22 pm

KB lance is tempting, but if the manti gets killed (and it dies easily) the lance is completly useless, so its a no go.

Yes, there was a topic about the BSB manti master, but it just isnt for me. I have to be able to risk it if I need to. Never liked elven BSBs anyway.

I like the idea for the B.Dragon egg or Hydra teeth. Unconventional items can let you pull some surprises, unlike the standard Crimson death + armour of darkness or similar combos.

So, in your opinion, which one is better tactically? Have you tried them in practice, not theoryhammer? What are the results?

Katon · Post by **Katon** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:21 pm

As i understand if the manti dies and the master is on foot the KB special ability carries on to his hand weapon. Just no bonus from lance.

Ive been thinking B.Egg on Morathi, T6 and a flamming breath attack is gd. A T6 Elf will be an unexpected suprise.

I think BSB Manti is too many points that you could lose to pure shooting.

A BSB COB be better for the army due to range and slightly safer.

Marwynn · Post by **Marwynn** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:38 pm

How about as a non-BSB in a 1000-1500 point game?

Jurgen · Post by **Jurgen** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:48 am

The rules are clear - cannot use a lance if not mounted, so no KB if mount killed.

Seeing in anather topic that B.dragon egg doesnt count as magical attack I will try the Hydra teeth for the first time, thx all for helping.

Backslide · Post by **Backslide** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:22 pm

I think the egg would be great, tempted to try that one