2250p new DE.

Joey_boy · Post by **Joey_boy** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:21 pm

This is the basic force I think I'll be playing around with. I'm not to sure about the lvl4. I'm thinking about using her on a peggi with the focus fam, inverted ward and a scroll. I think that cn be really fun to use and play well on the new DE style.

Anyway, I'm starting with the bascs and trying to get the new fun stuff to work. I really love the new multi shades with GW, They will really be able to do everything that I need them to. Also with heavy hitters like the Manti, Hydra and BG I think alot of other stuff will get ignored untill it's to late. Anyway, whats your thoughts on the new list.

Heros
lvl4, General, Dagger, scroll, Seal of Ghrond. 340p
Master, BSB, GW, Armour of Darknes, Pearl of Infinet Bleakness. 159p
Master, Manicore, Lifetaker, Enchanted Shield, Lance, Sea Dragon Cloak, Heavy Armour. 337p

Core
5 DR, rbx, Musician. 117p
5 DR, rbx, Musician. 117p
23 Warriors, FC, War Banner. 201p (Joined by the BSB and lvl4)
3*5 Harpies. 3*55p
10 Crosbowmen, Shields. 110p

Special
7 Shades, GW. 126p
7 Shades, GW. 126p
14 Black Guard, FC, Standard of Hag Graef, Ring of Hotek. 277p

Rare
Hydra. 175p

2250p

Druchii77 · Post by **Druchii77** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:02 pm

Not a bad list. You will find that the lvl. 4 with the dagger creates a stellar magic phase! I played a dwarf army and routinely generate 8-12 dice per phase with PoD and the dagger.

My main concern for this army is the fact that your list would necessitate a close promximity between your blackguard and your warriors for effective BSB usage. This ultimately means that your sorceress would be in dire straights to not miscast due to the ring of hotek. Conversely, I don't think it would be wise to isolate the blackguard either. I think you should either drop the ring altogether and and try to work in an additional scroll or plan on making a shade unit your lvl.4's bodyguard. Otherwise, it looks really great. Good luck to you.

Elfik · Post by **Elfik** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:19 am

Sorry if this is a dumb question but why do you need shades if you already have Dark riders and harpies? Wouldn't you rather, for example, two chariots? I have never used shades before but they're main use seems to be shooting and marchblocking.

Oh and the warriors should be bigger to discourage shooting at them and for the sacrifices. Take out a harpy unit perhaps?

Zeb · Post by **Zeb** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:02 pm

Hi Joey,
from what I remember of your playing style I think it suits you.

The only thing I would do is maybe to take boost the Crossbows with some numbers and possibly even a banner, and first thing would be a musician though.

Looks solid, interested in hearing how it goes, I have a similar build in mind when it comes to troops, but a different character set up.

Good Luck

@ Elfik: Shades with hatred and GW will be the "new black", that is a real cookie unit. Hits hard and will be able to hit the flanks with the help of forward deployment and said Riders and Harpies.

Godless-mimicry · Post by **Godless-mimicry** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:01 pm

BSB can't take a GW

Elfik · Post by **Elfik** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:59 pm

BSB can't take a GW

I think they can in the new book.

And about the shades...I now see how good they are. In fact, I'm going to get some this week.

Godless-mimicry · Post by **Godless-mimicry** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:04 am

I'm not so sure, but we'll see soon enough

Criti · Post by **Criti** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:27 pm

Godless-Mimicry wrote:BSB can't take a GW

They absolutely can. There is nothing limiting BSB equipment in the new book (save the Magic Item OR Magic Standard choice). This is not an oversight by GW - this is the new standard set by the HE, and followed by the VC.

Godless-mimicry · Post by **Godless-mimicry** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:03 pm

Kewl. Anywho, I really like the list, just be careful how
much you use the Dagger since the same unit is the BSBs
combat unit and bodyguard.