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Well, who wants the chat back?

 
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Post by Lethalis »

I too suffer problems with IRC. Java, you say? Hm, might just be it...where can I download it again? (never trust me when it comes to links ;))
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Post by King ulrik flamebeard »

Hey I'm a fan of IRC (those who know me, know this.. but :P ) I use it on another site, it's very useful and quick. But sometimes does have the problems with netsplits, pinging out etc. But I do like it's up sides

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But as to DP, IIRC her problem is her laptop is old and slow (no offense M'Lady) and IRC slows it and she has problems with it alot.

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Post by Auric stormcloud »

Solution? The "Buy DP a New Laptop Fund"! ;)

Anyway, if IRC is the only way we can go, I'll accept it. I mean, no chat is worse than IRC... I suppose...
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Post by Noble korhedron »

For Kitrik, some questions/points of order:

I) Are you sure it'll be totally free?

II) What would people have to do/download to be able to use it?

III) I would be ABLE AND WILLING to make small, regular donations(equiva-lent to $10-15/month), but like a lot of D.net members out there, I don't have a credit card, and will NEVER, repeat NEVER, get one 'til I get a permanent, full-time job. So that kinda screws up any idea of using Paypal for it, don't you think?
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Java IRC seems a little underfeatured...it needs more colours and the "proper" smileys if it's worth having (Read: Use the old style php interface :p).

And mIRC? Probably the worst program in existence.
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for all who do need java, here is a link to download it.

http://www.java.com/en/download/windows_automatic.jsp
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Post by Linda lobsta defenda »

i have nop probs with java. in fact i like it!! i say Onward!
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Java is good. I quite like java. I play games on it. Now i sound like Homer.

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Post by Serion »

well then. Join #druchii.net on q-net IRC then :D
We can use it until we've come up with something better
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Post by Vorchild »

The old mIRC chat had the trivia bot didn't it? I'm all for that! ;)
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I never really liked the chat that much. I know some people lived there, but personally I don't care that it's gone.
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Post by Belial »

mIRC is okay for me, but still I'd rather have the original chatroom back. But is better than nothing, I guess. Also, it's fine until(if) another solution is found.

Who chose the second option?

I did.

Whats that Java thingie? (I'm horrible with computers)
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Post by Mornedhel »

how does one actually join an irc chat? i never used irc.
i mean, i´d join, but how? :?
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Post by Lethalis »

Go to Asur.org and click on 'Chat'. With the pop-up, you click 'Yes'. The chat ;)
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Post by Darkprincess »

Kitrik wrote:darkprincess - does your laptop not have java installed? is that why the IRC chatroom on asur.org won't load for you?


standard java yes, but the java2 VM is way too resoource-hungry to run properly. I did install, it and it did access the asur chatroom, but it was so slow that it was basically unusable :(

Kitrik wrote:I really really really want to move our chatroom to IRC. Main reason is that there is bandwidth on our side, it's all the IRC servers. There are a number of free (ad-free too) java chat programs out there that I can install..


well a standard ad-free java chat would be far preferable to irc in my opinion. I think there are a couple of older irc programs that will work, but frankly every time I've tried a proper irc client I've has unwelcome security issues :(
Also, irc looks and feels really old and clunky. the limited choice of colours, the fact that the colours don't seem to work properly (ie. I can make the text pink but everybody else sees it as black), lack of any really good smilies, no ability to click user names, harder to set up... the list of hates goes on and on and on..

Kitrik wrote:dp - since this is somewhat about you at this point, have you tried getting mIRC to run on your laptop? It's a small IRC program that should work on your laptop... I know you HATE IRC, but I suggest you learn to love it. It is the Chat-backbone of the internet and a lot of people love it (I do!)...


I don't trust irc to be secure, sorry. Admittedly its safer than MSN but I still don't feel comfortable using it for a number of reasons that I won't bore you with here.

Kitrik wrote:My vote is for Java-IRC.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo - that will make a chat like the asur chat :(

Kitrik wrote:This allows people to get onto chat without coming to D.net (using mIRC or something similar).
It helps us moderate it easier.
It's true real-time.
It doesn't use my bandwidth.
We can share chat channels with other sites.
It's flexible, powerful, and allows us to have a TRIVIABOT!
The list goes on...

What say you?

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Post by Anaryin »

I was about to ask that also Auric: "Lets gather some money to buy DP a new laptop" :lol: :)

Well, about the chat, I prefer IRC because I'm used to it, but I must agree that smileys look nice and that DP is an indispensable factor on any chat...
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dp - you need to understand where i'm coming from at this point. If we are to get a chat back, it must NOT use any of our server's resources and bandwidth. I just can't handle 10-20 people chatting on our server with only a partial-T1 line.

This leaves very few options.
1. we don't have a chat and I point everyone to a different site
2. I install an IRC-based chatroom for everyone to use.

So what do you want?

If I can find a Java-IRC program that is under 20k in size then I will get it up and running this week...

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Post by Andruillius »

Isn't it possible to make a brand new site only for the chat? Not asking Kitrik here, as he is obviously doing enough for us already.
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Post by Rork »

Kitrik wrote:So what do you want?


Something in black ;).

We have (dubious) standards to maintain, after all :p.
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yep something in black and with lots and lts of good smilies
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An IRC chat, I'm wondering how much longer I can take the white of asur.org.
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Post by Lethalis »

Depends, checked your batteries? ;)

The Asur one, though, is now Warhammer fantasy. With a change in background it could be intergrated...

But apart from the black, I have one wish;

add the :twisted: smiley
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Post by Anaryin »

Well, MSN groups? It has smileys...

DP: What requirements must a program fulfill in order to run there in your computer/laptop?
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Hmm, intersite not really too sure - there seems a fundamental difference between Asur and Druchii players, or at least the sites. Even wihout that, wonder whether 'my general's dad could beat your general's dad' conversations would make it too irritating to use.
Personally, knowing nothing whatsoever about the entire business, yet being arrogant enough to decide I deserve an opinion....I would vote for some off site Druchii chat. If its black and one link away from D.net I wouldn't notice the difference.
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Kitrik wrote:dp - you need to understand where i'm coming from at this point. If we are to get a chat back, it must NOT use any of our server's resources and bandwidth. I just can't handle 10-20 people chatting on our server with only a partial-T1 line.

This leaves very few options.
1. we don't have a chat and I point everyone to a different site
2. I install an IRC-based chatroom for everyone to use.

So what do you want?

If I can find a Java-IRC program that is under 20k in size then I will get it up and running this week...

Kitrik


OK, taking your points one at a time. Firstly, yes I understand your position on this and I agree that whatever chat we end up with cannot be allowed to degrade server performance - whatever else happens, the site is a hell of a lot more important than the chatroom.

I'm sure many people here would love an IRC chatroom and while some of the low-end IRC clients will run happily on even my ancient equipment, I wouldn't really feel safe using it, so in the end, I probably wouldn't.

Which leaves a java chat of some kind. The java2 VM is very unhappy running on my 150MHz laptop in 40Mb RAM (bearing in mind that even win98 Lite uses a big chunk of that just to run itself much less anything else - and no, I can't add more RAM - it has 8Mb on board and 2 slots each of which has 16Mb in it (the maximum it will take).

The standard java environment should run ok, if a little slowly, on it though (java 1 as we will undoubtedly have to start calling it from now on)

So I guess it'll have to be java-based.

But if everyone else wants IRC, then give them IRC - this cannot be only about me - this site has around 7000 members and I'm only one...

The asur.org chat, being a nasty combination of IRC with a java frontend will work OK on my main PC (400MHz celeron with 128Mb RAM), although Danceman brought it to its knees tonight by sending a file to me via DCC - but for simple chatting it does work, although its a bit clunky and spurious (the colour selector box only appearing now and again, unpredictable is the best way to describe it.

It's a pity really, as the upgraded chatroom we enjoyed here for a couple of days was absolutely fantastic - but then I guess it was all too good to be true.

But the site HAS to come first. It cannot be put at risk to satisfy the needs of a small handful of members, regardless how how much we all loved the chatroom. Though it pains me greatly to say it, that is the simple truth.

Maybe an offsite chat as tastyfish has suggested would be better - I don't know really

Sorry if I'm rambling a bit now - I don't think it's such a good idea to be posting at 3:30am :(
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