Chaos Dwarfs available to order at Warhammer Forge

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Chaos Dwarfs available to order at Warhammer Forge

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I really like the look of the new models, although I know others don't. I am definitely going to buy a unit of Infernal Guard with Fireglaives and an Iron Daemon to use in my Chaos Army.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff
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Pretty awesome! Love the iron daemon, and hopefully this means a CD book is coming in the near future...
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There is going to be a CD army list in Throne of Tamurkan which is coming this summer. I love the fact that you will be able to use these in your regular Chaos Army as well.
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I think I'm going to start a new army.
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those repeater handgun/axe look radiculus.
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that's a matter of taste

More objectively, I would say that the grip side blade is quite ingenious, but it would have been better with spikes (like the twin bayonets), more 'realistic' should I say

The big blades are here for style only, I see noway to use the forefront blade effectively, even for cutting logs :D

The dwarves themselves are yet so much better than regular ones
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Amaaaaaaaaaaaaazing models, I'm definitely getting an entire army of tho--

...no, wait, £36 for 10 plus even more money for the command squad. Hmm, forget that idea then.
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hmm after empire rockets and pigeon, they shuld 'ev had made "mechanical dwarven dildo slanesch berserkers" with triple dildo luncher - spear - chariot device, and some swis-knife-hallabards-with-poison-flame-throwers-and-tesla-chargers. But wait, maybe they will...

All i was saying that recently GW drop "realistic" theem of 7th ed, and goes for some "funy" "impressions" with no realism at all.

Hot iron on faces, fork-reapeter handuns, and Empire army list.

But Iron-daemon model is great and with some fluffy realism and flavor. But to much pressure on "new" and "extraordinary" and "wow for 13 year old players" [like those W40K orangutan...

But idea of geting back Chaos Dwarfs, is very very good, no, wait - GREAT!
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oh, and about Forge World and GW - they are producing those models for about 1/10 of $ or even less [matrix and cheap material, and a little electricity] and sell them for 100's. And still they - all the time - find reasons to put prices up, to sell extra/speciall/elite/custom/madafacka-pimp-ed. FOrge World/specialists models as
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Rkhatzar wrote:oh, and about Forge World and GW - they are producing those models for about 1/10 of $ or even less [matrix and cheap material, and a little electricity] and sell them for 100's. And still they - all the time - find reasons to put prices up, to sell extra/speciall/elite/custom/madafacka-pimp-ed. FOrge World/specialists models as


Just remember that it's not that simple. They still have to pay people to design the model from concept to prototype and then pay the wages of the people making the moulds, packing them etc etc.

You can't view the cost of a product solely on the physical value of its components.
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The hats, where are the hats!? :D

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Post by Dangerous Beans »

I want hats too! :P

Seriously though, I like the models, though theyre very 'clean cut' - I imagined the chaos dwarves being dwarves who discovered heavy metal, head banging and piercings/tattooes and that you could drink engine oil instead of ale; which meant burping fiery belches instead of hiccups! And then they'd hook up with some succubus daemon babe at the end of the night.

If that makes any sense...
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Rork wrote:
Rkhatzar wrote:oh, and about Forge World and GW - they are producing those models for about 1/10 of $ or even less [matrix and cheap material, and a little electricity] and sell them for 100's. And still they - all the time - find reasons to put prices up, to sell extra/speciall/elite/custom/madafacka-pimp-ed. FOrge World/specialists models as


Just remember that it's not that simple. They still have to pay people to design the model from concept to prototype and then pay the wages of the people making the moulds, packing them etc etc.

You can't view the cost of a product solely on the physical value of its components.


He's got a point, otherwise we would only be spending a few bucks for the pewter models.
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Can't wait for the full rules so I can break out my old CD Army!
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Post by Zenith »

and will DE and the other armies get extra units as well?
It would sound unfair if only chaos can use these CD
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Post by Silic »

Echoing a few others: Chaos Dwarves are back!, great models, but that cost just doesn't work...
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Er... This isn't a release of an entire Chaos Dwarf army, I believe. This is just a Warhammer Forge supplement to the existing Warriors of Chaos rules, to add a little spice and some fun new models to the existing ruleset. It's not like GW will be rolling out a Chaos Dwarf armybook as a result of these models.
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its still adds a lot of new units for Woc, every army then should get some supplement , dont you agree teckils
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Tethlis wrote:Er... This isn't a release of an entire Chaos Dwarf army, I believe. This is just a Warhammer Forge supplement to the existing Warriors of Chaos rules, to add a little spice and some fun new models to the existing ruleset. It's not like GW will be rolling out a Chaos Dwarf armybook as a result of these models.


The Warhammer Forge book will include a full Chaos Dwarf army list, among many other things. Many/most of the units can also be taken by Warriors of Chaos, though usually with tighter restrictions.

(Technically it's the "Legion of Azgorh", indicating a generic CD list might be a bit different, but it's a Chaos Dwarf army list in all but name).

its still adds a lot of new units for Woc, every army then should get some supplement , dont you agree teckils


Should? Says who? It's the way Warhammer Forge works (ie. the same as Forge World in 40K)... they'll release units for a number of armies and a book to go with them (in this case Chaos, Chaos Dwarfs and Empire) then move on and do something different. There's no "should" about it, and it's not "unfair" that only some armies get new stuff, it's just the way it is. Rumour has it the second book will be Bretonnians and Tomb Kings, don't know how true that is, and no idea how long Dark Elves will have to wait... maybe never. Nothing unfair about it, they just can't release 15 armies worth of stuff all at once.
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DE under/with Slaanesh-invasion from the north in the fourth book, IIRC.
There are 4 planed and most of the armies will have got new stuff till the end, but they have to start somewhere and starting with CD was not the worst idea.
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Bitterman wrote:
Tethlis wrote:Er... This isn't a release of an entire Chaos Dwarf army, I believe. This is just a Warhammer Forge supplement to the existing Warriors of Chaos rules, to add a little spice and some fun new models to the existing ruleset. It's not like GW will be rolling out a Chaos Dwarf armybook as a result of these models.


The Warhammer Forge book will include a full Chaos Dwarf army list, among many other things. Many/most of the units can also be taken by Warriors of Chaos, though usually with tighter restrictions.

(Technically it's the "Legion of Azgorh", indicating a generic CD list might be a bit different, but it's a Chaos Dwarf army list in all but name).

its still adds a lot of new units for Woc, every army then should get some supplement , dont you agree teckils


Should? Says who? It's the way Warhammer Forge works (ie. the same as Forge World in 40K)... they'll release units for a number of armies and a book to go with them (in this case Chaos, Chaos Dwarfs and Empire) then move on and do something different. There's no "should" about it, and it's not "unfair" that only some armies get new stuff, it's just the way it is. Rumour has it the second book will be Bretonnians and Tomb Kings, don't know how true that is, and no idea how long Dark Elves will have to wait... maybe never. Nothing unfair about it, they just can't release 15 armies worth of stuff all at once.



Well, when storm of chaos came, they made every army feel included.
Or is this something enterily differrent?

Ok its forge world. can a empire or chaos player take some forgeworld units too morst tourney's
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Bitterman wrote:
Tethlis wrote:Er... This isn't a release of an entire Chaos Dwarf army, I believe. This is just a Warhammer Forge supplement to the existing Warriors of Chaos rules, to add a little spice and some fun new models to the existing ruleset. It's not like GW will be rolling out a Chaos Dwarf armybook as a result of these models.


The Warhammer Forge book will include a full Chaos Dwarf army list, among many other things. Many/most of the units can also be taken by Warriors of Chaos, though usually with tighter restrictions.

(Technically it's the "Legion of Azgorh", indicating a generic CD list might be a bit different, but it's a Chaos Dwarf army list in all but name).

its still adds a lot of new units for Woc, every army then should get some supplement , dont you agree teckils


Should? Says who? It's the way Warhammer Forge works (ie. the same as Forge World in 40K)... they'll release units for a number of armies and a book to go with them (in this case Chaos, Chaos Dwarfs and Empire) then move on and do something different. There's no "should" about it, and it's not "unfair" that only some armies get new stuff, it's just the way it is. Rumour has it the second book will be Bretonnians and Tomb Kings, don't know how true that is, and no idea how long Dark Elves will have to wait... maybe never. Nothing unfair about it, they just can't release 15 armies worth of stuff all at once.



Well, when storm of chaos came, they made every army feel included.
Or is this something enterily differrent?

Ok its forge world. can a empire or chaos player take some forgeworld units too morst tourney's
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Afaik FW is not allowed on tourneys by default.
It could change in singular cases if FW/WF releases the only and most official CS list which is well balanced. But normally… it’s no comparison to an full official Storm of Chaos book.
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Zenith wrote:Well, when storm of chaos came, they made every army feel included.
Or is this something enterily differrent?


It's something entirely different.

Storm of Chaos was a GW production, intended to get everybody playing lots of games of Warhammer for a big summer campaign (...that disappeared without trace; the results were basically "nothing happened"). There were a bare minimum of new models (just a few special characters IIRC) and the "new" army lists were almost entirely just variants on existing lists. Though even despite that, they were short-lived - none of the lists given in the SoC book are still deemed valid, which is a bit harsh considering some people probably spent lots of time and money building them!

Throne of Tamazurkhan, by contrast, is a Warhammer Forge production. It's therefore not aimed at everyone, but at those small number of gamers and collectors who are prepared to go "above and beyond" the normal Warhammer experience (and usually end up paying lots of money to do so). It's not limited to one summer, doesn't pretend to have a campaign result, and is driven almost entirely by what models they can produce for it. Not everyone likes using Warhammer Forge / Forge World rules, but for those that do, the rules and lists within remain valid indefinitely.

So yeah, basically everything about it is different. :lol: The most obvious comparison is the Forge World books - I think the first couple had "a bit of everything" in them, but the last few have been heavily themed around particular wars. For example one was Tau, Guard and Marines, one was Tyranids and Marines, and I think the most recent was Marines vs. Marines civil war - yeah... Marines tend to get a pretty good deal out of it... that's 40K for you I'm afraid! Though to be fair a lot of the recent Marines stuff has been cool-looking armour variants and shoulder pads, with minimal new units or rules. Anyway, this Warhammer Forge book is Empire vs. Chaos. Everyone else's time will come, I'm sure.
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