on request, pics of new release

[Clockwork]

Good point. For some reason, I was mixing up base sizes. You'd need 5 20mm bases to equal 100mm, but it looks like the Witch Elves are only in ranks of 4. So it could well indeed be 80mm.

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[Holt]

Pre-orders are up on the GW site for those that are interested... as if anyone here isn't

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... meStyle=wh

$80NZ for 10 Witch Elves... I don't think that's happening even if they do look that good. Almost a days work for 10 models is a bit of a joke.

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SO MUCH WIN!

[T.D.]

Holy Moly!

Witches = Core
SoS = Rare

Karybdiss/Hydra = Rare/Special (one of)
RBT = Special
Harpies = Special

So, monster mash on, Khaine frenzy on, gunline enabled, mobility = nerf!

[Dyvim tvar]

The price difference between Corsairs and Witch Elves is just stupid ... $25 for 10 Corsairs and $60 for Witch Elves.

[T.D.]

More recon news; Power of Darkness still signature spell and changed slightly!

[Lion of flanders]

Well now! Nothing like some good photos! Thanks for posting those!

Those WE are pretty cool (still no stilettos and the bodies could be a little less like young boys in jog bras) The best of the bunch is still Shadowblade for me...although his feet are about size 35

[Holt]

I don't think it has been bought up here yet, how about checking out the background of the pic below for the new BG and Exes. How awesome do those Executioners look with their masks! (sorry that the pic is MASSIVE! but I feel like it may be needed as it is the background I want to draw attention to. I can make it smaller if requested though )

[Yamagogimon18]

360's of a lot of models improve them. I like the Hydra/Karibdyss a lot more. Shadowblade got 3x more amazing! (if that was possible...)

BG and Execs look awesome!

Only thing I don't like is that they seem mono-pose (all the Execs I see are holding their swords at pretty much the same angle- the old execs [while mono-pose] had several really cool poses.). A lot of those BG look like carbon copies too. This seems to be a trend with all the models, especially the torso/legs.

I'm not excited about this. I mean, I can't even have my warriors face another direction. WTF?

Converting is fun but it wears me out after 20+ of the same thing, especially when you have to carefully remove certain parts.

I wonder if this is GW's answer to the bits market, "Suck it guys! We just won't make any bits!"

Tis a shame

[Layne]

I'm not excited about this. I mean, I can't even have my warriors face another direction. WTF? [snip]I wonder if this is GW's answer to the bits market, "Suck it guys! We just won't make any bits!"

Tis a shame

You can realign them on the base. Also ;

Witch Elves 6.7 bits per model, Warriors 8.9 bits per model, where neither requires more than 5 per model to construct. GW still does bits. Also, what happened to female warrior torsos?

[Dalamar]

*sigh* Now I'll have to convert all my spearmen into swordsmen.

[Jabroniville]

The new Core re-do surprises me, given that GW rarely re-does the Core stuff. Not great enough that I'll dump all my old stuff, but I might throw out some Swordsmen if they're any good.

THANK THE HEAVENS for the new Witch Elf minis. While they're not mind-blowing, they are replacing what is possibly the most dated-looking models in all of Warhammer (seriously, does anything else come close?).

I agree that the Hydra looks kind of stupid. A lack of fangs makes it look like it has no teeth at all or something. I don't mind the Kharybdis, though.

LOVE the Throne/Medusa stuff. Very high-detailed stuff. I have no idea how it's supposed to move forwards, though .

[Yamagogimon18]

@Layne:
If I want my xbowmen to be sighting down his crossbow i have to cut off a warrior head and re-align it. Same deal with the left (shield) arms or most of the witch elves. There are definitely tons of awesome bits. But as far as how customizable the minis are out of the box, apart from weapon swaps, the poses are pretty static. Most of the poses are really good, but compared to corsairs, you don't have as many options. The main difference I see is no leg/torso separation. Not an gamebreaker but it definitely cuts down on customizability.

I think this is a double edged sword though, I don't think modular witch elves would have looked nearly as good.

Don't get me wrong, the models looks great. I'm just wondering why they decided to make the warriors so static (if they made torsos separable, you could plop some WE torsos on your warriors to get your female warriors- this conversion would kinda suck using the new models).

[T.D.]

Ace find, Devil's! More than a few Eldar and D.Eldar will be wetting their pants at the sight of those. Hell, I am

Black Guard looked modelled on old armybook art, whereas the "Executioners Axe" looks to be in the hand of the champion of the unit

I have to say that while I like the look of all these new infantry I am disappointed with the apparent monoposability. It was the awesomeness of the new dark eldar that got me back into Warhammer, and the reason that the new Dark Eldar sold like hot cakes is because they were so versatile and dynamic, as well as aesthetically pleasing.

NOTE TO GW: MORE BITS, MORE POSABILITY = MORE SALES!

[Clockwork]

Agree on the monopose Warriors. Seems like a step backwards.

However, from what I can see the Blackguard look great. On this occasion, static monopose may actually work well and pay off. Its a shame that they are all holding their halberds one handed, though.

I can't quite decide on the Executioners. The helmets are a significant change in direction. Might be I end up getting some Cold One Knight heads in in bulk to replace them.

I dread to think how much these guys are going to be. With easily needing about 4 boxes (2 of each), plus 2-4 boxes of the Dark Riders (depending on what the Warlocks do), next month is going to be expensive! Fortunately, I've already converted up my Cold One Chariots, so unless the new Scourgerunner is amazeballs I should be ok on that front.

[Lord Drakon]

Do you have pictures from those new blackguard and executioners?

[Holt]

@ Lord Drakon: See above for the BG and Exes.

Also found this on another forum, a very limited view of Dark Rider models:

[Clockwork]

From what I can see of the Dark Riders, I quite like them.

Do you have pictures from those new blackguard and executioners?

Scroll up about 4 posts.

[Holt]

Not too sure about the snarling looking horses but in time better photos will show up I'm sure for a better look. Looks as if they may have been given shields.

[Layne]

@Layne:
If I want my xbowmen to be sighting down his crossbow i have to cut off a warrior head and re-align it. Same deal with the left (shield) arms or most of the witch elves. There are definitely tons of awesome bits. But as far as how customizable the minis are out of the box, apart from weapon swaps, the poses are pretty static. Most of the poses are really good, but compared to corsairs, you don't have as many options. The main difference I see is no leg/torso separation. Not an gamebreaker but it definitely cuts down on customizability.

I think this is a double edged sword though, I don't think modular witch elves would have looked nearly as good.

Don't get me wrong, the models looks great. I'm just wondering why they decided to make the warriors so static (if they made torsos separable, you could plop some WE torsos on your warriors to get your female warriors- this conversion would kinda suck using the new models).

You're probably right, except for about putting Witch torsos on warrior legs. It would look ridiculous. If the Witches were perhaps 30% less dynamic you could give them shields and say "Female Warriors biatch" but this does not appear to be an option.

[Lion of flanders]

Wow! Enough with the freakin masks already! I am detecting an extreme laziness/cheap vibe coming off of our friends at GE. Give 80% of your new figures covers over their faces and sculpting becomes a lot easier.

Super biatch elves: mask
Dark riders: completely covered face
Executioners: mask
COB attendants: mask
Shadowblade: covered face (reasonable )
Warriors: minimal face with big helmet
Black Guard: looks to be same as warriors


I'm looking forward to seeing the new horses. Those look promising. I'm assuming that what looks to be snarl on the face of the one in the photo is a trick of the picture. It simply cannot be otherwise.

I too was hoping to see a great warrior kit with lots of dynamic possibilities, like the current corsair kit. Lil' Loser's unit of warriors really inspired me to make a new unit or two of spears or xbows. Impossible with this stuff. I have a feeling that we will all be seeing a proliferation of Dark Eldar Fantasy armies in the future.

[Layne]

Wow! Enough with the freakin masks already! I am detecting an extreme laziness/cheap vibe coming off of our friends at GE. Give 80% of your new figures covers over their faces and sculpting becomes a lot easier.

Surely they would have to sculpt the face before sculpting the cover/mask/helmet over it? Have you ever tried doing it the other way around? Also, recall that the current Execs have masks as and helmets. I for one wouldn't be surprised to discover two different head variants in that box.

[Lion of flanders]

Surely they would have to sculpt the face before sculpting the cover/mask/helmet over it? Have you ever tried doing it the other way around? Also, recall that the current Execs have masks as and helmets. I for one wouldn't be surprised to discover two different head variants in that box.

True, but with a minimum of face showing, you don't have to do too much if you are going to slap a big ol' helmet over everything, ie no ears, hair, etc.

I suppose you are correct...maybe I'm just overly fussy about those sisters models' heads...blech.

Meanwhile, I am with you that the Cauldron model is very nice. I like the fact that it has no visible means of propulsion...I finally have something for Thrud to do in my Soulcrusher Girls Army!